EBay scammer gets nailed...

30AnvZ28 · February 23, 2007 2:54PM

Not coin related... but still good.

EBayScammer

commoncents05 · February 23, 2007 3:00PM

My dad told me about that. The seller got what she deserved. I'm usually not a fan of Judge Judy, but she got this one right.

-Paul

notwilight · February 23, 2007 3:07PM

Wow. Judy doesn't seem to worry about being PC.

That was great. This loser makes most coin scammers on ebay look relatively not so bad...

Barry · February 23, 2007 3:10PM

I love JUdge Judy. She's a real pistol! It must have been tough being one of her kids. She sees through everyone and everything.

Tyler1924S · February 23, 2007 3:10PM

$467.00 and the buyer receives pictures of the two cell phones. Judge Judy: "You're an idiot and a scammer!"

Goldbully · February 23, 2007 3:21PM

Loved Judge Judy....thanks for the vid.

However, who would buy 2 cell phones for $460???????????????

Sounds like a pretty fishy scam on all!!!!

30AnvZ28 · February 23, 2007 3:56PM

Its not bad. I have sold old phones that I didnt need or want, or switched companys.

I plan on buying my new one on EBay. Can get a good deal.

Smitty79 · February 23, 2007 4:14PM

<< Its not bad. I have sold old phones that I didnt need or want, or switched companys.

I plan on buying my new one on EBay. Can get a good deal. >>

I agree. I've only ever bought two phones from a provider, and one was free. All other phone I've had were ebay purchases and the phones I replace got sold on the bay. You can definately find good deals and its nice being able to upgrade at any time instead of waiting to be eligible for upgrade.

My Mom told me about this case. Glad I got a chance to see it, thanks for posting.

rec78 · February 23, 2007 5:07PM

Got what she deserved except for a prison sentence.. $5k --Hmm maybe it should have been even more.
Great video. How can anyone be so stupid as to try to even defend this action?--did the seller actually think she would win this?

Thenewguy · February 23, 2007 6:01PM

Hopefully we will hear about her and her hubby getting 5-10 for fraud in the near future. They probably did have a statement in the listing that it was for a picture only. But they bury it in the small print 3 or 4 screens into their mini novel of a description and hide it by putting it in the middle of a paragraph that has nothing to do with anything. Like " Cell phone comes in many colors and there are lots of accessories available auction for photo only and is bluetooth capable". I have seen autions for proof sets that look like they are legit but buried in the small print it says "no coins included" but everything else in the listing is ment to lead you to think it is for the set with coins.

stockwiz · February 23, 2007 7:08PM

people who list items like this are scammers, plain and simple. You're obviously listing items like this with the intention of defrauding people.. to say it's their fault that they don't read it carefully enough doesn't really hold up in my book... why would you go out of your way to sell pictures of a cell phone in the first place?

TorinoCobra71 · February 23, 2007 7:30PM

WOW! I thought they were sueing for the $470 or so they ot scammed out of. Judy gives 'em $5000 !!!!! Too bad all Ebay scammers arent BUSTED like that.......

TorinoCobra71

Barry · February 23, 2007 9:05PM

Best thing to do with old cell phones is donate them. There are organizations that accept them for domestic violence victims, etc. And you get a tax deduction. If you can't find one locally, do a Google search on cell phone donations.

pb2y · February 23, 2007 9:26PM

How will they collect the $5000.00??

Tyler1924S · February 23, 2007 9:53PM

<< How will they collect the $5000.00?? >>

The award for each judgement is paid by the producers of the show.

cohocorp · February 23, 2007 9:56PM

that was great! thanks for the link.

pb2y · February 23, 2007 10:02PM

Thank you for that

lathmach · February 23, 2007 10:14PM

I've heard the way this judgement thing works on Judge Judy, is that the program pays the the settlement amount rather than the losing party.
This gets people to want to do their dirty laundry in public.

Ray

boucharda · February 23, 2007 10:46PM

I just became a Judge Judy fan...

Rodius · February 23, 2007 11:03PM

That was awesome. I loove Judge Judy, she does not hold anything back. Scammers of the world beware.

LincolnCentMan · February 23, 2007 11:18PM

Oh man, that was great!

-David

curly · February 23, 2007 11:42PM

OK, lets all relax for a minute. What I really want to see is the scammer get punished. Judge Judy doesn't have any real authority to do anything does she? The scammer certainly acted like she knew that Judge Judy couldn't do anything. She smirked during the whole episode and she didn't seem repentant afterwards.

I hope that they are turned in to the IRS for their actions. Nothing will make them more miserable than having the IRS on their a$$.

19Lyds · February 23, 2007 11:54PM

Thanks! I really enjoyed that!

fcloud · February 24, 2007 12:21AM

jmski52 · February 24, 2007 12:46AM

The only problem - try collecting any judgement from these scum. It won't happen, because they have no assets, and probably never will. The worst part - they are "responsible" for 3 kids.

notwilight · February 24, 2007 1:13AM

<< OK, lets all relax for a minute. What I really want to see is the scammer get punished. Judge Judy doesn't have any real authority to do anything does she? The scammer certainly acted like she knew that Judge Judy couldn't do anything. She smirked during the whole episode and she didn't seem repentant afterwards. I hope that they are turned in to the IRS for their actions. Nothing will make them more miserable than having the IRS on their a$$. >>

You're right. JJ has no authority and by appearing on the show your compensation is that the network will pay all the fines. So the scamees got $5k but the scammer didn't have to pay a penny. But JJ did her best to punish her with words, embarassment, hints of IRS involvement, etc. My guess is they did a little background checking and JJ had a rough script for what she was going to say.

--Jerry

mozeppa · February 24, 2007 1:52AM

isn't there also some dept. of the judge judy show ....that goes after people that has a judgement against them to recoup their loss?

30AnvZ28 · February 24, 2007 1:54AM

Im sure JJ can turn things over to a local IRS investigator. There in every town, city, ect. It wouldnt take much to push ones buttons into investigating them. It happened here at my business a couple years back. One of the employees tried to get the owner into trouble with the IRS. A local rep came, and made things miserable. The books wernt in great shape... but straight enough to prove we were operating within the law, and reporting everything (however sometimes delayed) but we still were left alone in the end.

30AnvZ28 · February 24, 2007 1:55AM

<< isn't there also some dept. of the judge judy show ....that goes after people that has a judgement against them to recoup their loss? >>

Im sure there is. I cant see them just eating it like that. It doesnt prove a point to the scammer.

etexmike · February 24, 2007 2:47AM

I am not a fan of the tv judges.

But loved this clip of Judge Judy.

Thanks for sharing.

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etexmike

Russ · February 24, 2007 3:09AM

It's amazing that some people are so desperate for their 15 minutes that even a slimeball like that would agree to appear and be so thoroughly humiliated.

BTW, the mother and daughter - yum, yum.

Russ, NCNE

Writersblock · February 24, 2007 3:09AM

Defendant was a scammer pure and simple,but probably operating legally. Judy was incensed and decided the case based on emotions and not the law. She also used her position to publicly insult and slander the defendant on unrelated matters with no legal justification.

So the defendant is a scammer but acted legally, Judy had a childish tantrum and acted unprofessionally, and the plantiff needs to learn to be more careful.

Smitty79 · February 24, 2007 3:32AM

<< 

<< isn't there also some dept. of the judge judy show ....that goes after people that has a judgement against them to recoup their loss? >>

Im sure there is. I cant see them just eating it like that. It doesnt prove a point to the scammer. >>

I hope there is, but somehow I doubt there is. No matter how you slice it, JJ is a TV show. And TV shows make their bread and butter on ratings. So, getting cases like this that are interesting to watch and possibly getting new viewers along with die hard JJ fans brings in their money and the paltry 5k they're shelling out is probably pocket change in comparison to what they bring in. It does suck that the only punishment to the losing party is humiliation and a genuine JJ tounge lashing. I sure hope the scammer at least catches hell from the IRS and child protective services for this.

leothelyon · February 24, 2007 3:42AM

<< Defendant was a scammer pure and simple,but probably operating legally. Judy was incensed and decided the case based on emotions and not the law. She also used her position to publicly insult and slander the defendant on unrelated matters with no legal justification.

So the defendant is a scammer but acted legally, Judy had a childish tantrum and acted unprofessionally, and the plantiff needs to learn to be more careful. >>

When coins are lost in the mail, the post office wants you to provide proof that the coins had value.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what she sold did not have a substantial value of $470!
There are dealers who offer certified coin packages claiming to be worth thousands according to certain published price guides. Is this legal? I believe this gal and husband will be facing prison time and lost of children if the crime they commited reaches felon status.

Leo

pocketpiececommems · February 24, 2007 6:32AM

I don't see how this gal could think that she could make people think they were paying that much for a picture of a phone and get away with it. She may give someone ideas about buying the photo of a coin. I wonder if she is still selling on eBay?

Russ · February 24, 2007 6:40AM

<< I wonder if she is still selling on eBay? >>

According to the video, she got NARU'd.

Russ, NCNE

flaminio · February 24, 2007 6:56AM

The money's paid by the show, so the scammer doesn't have to cough up the $5K. BUT -- I loved it when Judy was talking about bring CPS and the IRS into it -- and I bet she will. That scammer doesn't even know the can o' whoop ass that's been opened on her.

<< BTW, the mother and daughter - yum, yum.

>>

Oh yeah.... Nice of the daughter to bring da b00bies.

leothelyon · February 24, 2007 9:43AM

Did anyone notice how the F-word was omited when the mom mentioned the gal had 3 other cases against her?

Leo

Writersblock · February 25, 2007 10:52PM

<< I loved it when Judy was talking about bring CPS and the IRS into it >>

I could see bringing the IRS into it but CPS? That's just what CPS needs, an unjustified complaint on the grounds that the parents are running an unethical eBay business, or that they DIDN'T leave the kids home alone to appear on a TV show, or because mom doesn't put them in daycare so she can take a job outside the home.

ccr · February 25, 2007 11:57PM

It is outragous that she would go on national tv and humiliate herself. Apparently, she was still looking for an easy way out of her problems, both financial and psychological, and has no pride. Judge Judy has seen hundreds, if not thousands of people, like her in her career and had her number. Amazing how some people think judges are stupid.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · February 26, 2007 10:37AM

WTG Judge Judy!

BECOKA · February 26, 2007 10:56AM

Wow, I watched every second of that. Great stuff. I wish every scammer had to go through something like this in front of 10 million people

leothelyon · February 26, 2007 11:07AM

It's interesting how this gal believes that since they didn't read the entire auction that they received what they paid for. Which, of course, was nonsense on her behalf! But whenever I see an auction that has a ton terms to read...and 999 out of a 1000 the picture provided is of a slab and not the coin.....well forget it, I don't have the time. It's likely you're just asking for trouble wasting your time with those type of auctions.

Leo

cohocorp · February 26, 2007 1:00PM

i always thought that it what is important is the spirit of the contract. it was obvious that the buyer thought she was getting actual phones, not pics of phones. that is the spirit of the contract, $470 for 2 phones. now whether or not the seller said pics of phones shouldnt matter. just a thought.

Bikingnut · February 26, 2007 1:02PM

It was good, but I really find it interesting that the scammers attitude was that it was the buyers fault. Speaks hoghly of whats wrong in America today. The kids in that familiy will be exactly like the parents.

Dennis

segoja · February 26, 2007 1:17PM

Typical of scammers....It's not my fault!

Good for the buyers for pressing the issue!

MarineEAS1999 · February 26, 2007 1:20PM

Great video...Judge Judy Unhinged.

Reminded me of that Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld)
movie "Trial and Error" where he was an actor pretending to be
a lawyer trying to get off this con artist who was selling engravings
of Abraham Lincoln for something like $30 a piece.

Of course the engravings were actually pennies.

I thought this was a COINcidence.

kiyote · February 26, 2007 3:14PM

<< i always thought that it what is important is the spirit of the contract. it was obvious that the buyer thought she was getting actual phones, not pics of phones. that is the spirit of the contract, $470 for 2 phones. now whether or not the seller said pics of phones shouldnt matter. just a thought. >>

I think you're right--- it has to do with the intention of the buyer, reasonable expectations, ect. No reasonable person could expect to sell two pictures of a camera for $470, so the contract was made in bad faith.

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