Anyone recognize this 1921-D Morgan variety?

Blackhawk · February 21, 2007 1:57PM

There's a thicker crack/break between the 1 and 2 of the date, some metal between the denticles across from the 6th star to the left of the date, and a heavier crack/break between the first T and the A of STATES on the reverse.

23Pairer · February 21, 2007 2:18PM

Blackhawk, sorry I don't have answer for you, but what equipment / photoshop filter did you use for these photos? If you like you can PM me to maintain the flow of the thread. Thanks. rel

ibzman350 · February 21, 2007 8:38PM

Coxe · February 21, 2007 10:30PM

There are a number of common ones like that with no breaks and, thereforefore, no special designations. Only special one that comes to mind would be a possible early state of the VAM-1P, which then would just be VAM-1.

messydesk · February 21, 2007 10:31PM

It probably isn't either of these, but I think VAM 1AS has a bunch of cracks in the date and VAM 1o has a small "pennant" die break atop the A in STATES, of which yours might be an early die state.

Blackhawk · February 22, 2007 5:27AM

<< <i>Blackhawk, sorry I don't have answer for you, but what equipment / photoshop filter did you use for these photos? If you like you can PM me to maintain the flow of the thread. Thanks. rel >>

Your PM function is not turned on, so I'll answer here...

I have a Sony Mavica MVC-CD250 still camera and take the whole coin photos against a piece of felt. The close-ups are done with the same camera through one lens of a microscope.

MAD4MORGANS · February 22, 2007 10:55AM

Here is a coin I bought recently that I believe might be a 21D VAM-1AS. I really should send it to Messydesk or Rob to take a look at it.

It seems to be a late die state with somewhat different crack orientations on the reverse as compared to the illustrations at VAMworld. There is also an area above STATES and other strong die polishing lines in other areas on the coin that also might suggest a later die state.

See if yours might match up to some of the features on your coin.

MAD4MORGANS · February 24, 2007 2:42AM

Here are a couple of die breaks illustrations I made a feeble attempt using Rob's templates for the VAM1AS.

The ones for the VAM-1AS at VAMworld are for the VAM-1AR when you scroll over the image.

It's been so long since I posted over there, I forgot how to do it.

Blackhawk · February 24, 2007 4:46AM

I don't think that the coin is any of those shown. The crack between the 9 and 2 is very heavy and in more of a arc that the others, which appear to be made of two straight cracks that are joined together.

aballein · February 24, 2007 5:01AM

i dont collect morgans but i have a few and was wondering...is there a VAM designation for EVERY morgan or are some just plain ol morgans?

Blackhawk · February 24, 2007 5:12AM

I believe that there is a VAM designation for all of them.

Coxe · February 24, 2007 5:13AM

We call the ones without VAM designations, new finds....temporarily.

jmj3esq · February 24, 2007 5:25AM

Just for comparision, here is a picture of the date on my 1921 D VAM 1A-S as attributed by ANACS:

Anyone recognize this 1921-D Morgan variety?

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