what a joke,

seateddime · February 21, 2007 8:14AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/1840-SEATED-LIBERTY-HALF-DOLLAR-U-S-COIN-ARROWS-MS-64_W0QQitemZ250086172405QQihZ015QQcategoryZ11970QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250086172405

Mercury10c · February 21, 2007 8:21AM

Is that thing actually in an NGC slab, or did he just photograph the coin in front of one?

Animalkeeper · February 21, 2007 8:28AM

That photo is clearly meant to deceive.

Barndog · February 21, 2007 8:29AM

the seller appears to be a bigger POS than the coin

BobaFett72 · February 21, 2007 8:37AM

that listing is nauseating. bleh!

lordmarcovan · February 21, 2007 8:40AM

GEE, DAVE, DON'T YOU THINK YOU MADE US SCROLL THROUGH ENOUGH GIANT PINK FONTS AND OTHER BULLSPIT TO ACTUALLY SEE YOUR PICTURE OF THE COIN?

Actually, the coin itself doesn't look so bad, as a circulated piece.

Dave needs some very thick glasses and lessons in grading and ethics, though.

BlindedByEgo · February 21, 2007 8:49AM

Does PCGS even care anymore about people using their pricelist in auctions?

marxbuff · February 21, 2007 8:55AM

You gotta love this one.

Link

BECOKA · February 21, 2007 8:56AM

This auction should be reported as it is obviously trying to deceive the buyer. He is saying no returns if it does not bring in MS money.

As far as the coin goes the buyer should be educated enough to recognize XF quality or realize that raw on e-bay is bad so I don't feel so bad if someone gets taken by this as they did no do their homework.

Doogy · February 21, 2007 9:00AM

<< the seller appears to be a bigger POS than the coin >>

yeah, I sent him a PM telling him that as a top name in Numismatics, NGC would not appreciate having their slabs used to deceive bidders as merely a backdrop for culls.

Tyler1924S · February 21, 2007 9:20AM

Another ebay on ebay flipper who joined 3 weeks ago. I like the 1961 Franklin he bought for $6.39 on February 8th. He has it listed as a Cameo (8 hours to go and it's only at $1.04) with the suggestion/implication that it could be a 69. Maybe he should fly to Sarasota and get a pic of NGC headquarters for his background. Why not go all the way!

ziggy29 · February 21, 2007 9:24AM

Nice. Use the PCGS price guide AND NGC logos in the picture of a cleaned EF and call it "MS-64+".

I call my Toyota a Maserati, but it's still a Toyota...

rbf · February 21, 2007 9:27AM

This guy's return policy is silly; he completely contradicts himself. Also, why do sellers like this insist on using giant, oversized fonts and all CAPS? Shouting at prospective buyers and making it unnecessarily difficult for them to read is just stupid, plain and simple.

nankraut · February 21, 2007 9:31AM

My eyes hurt!!!

Doogy · February 21, 2007 9:31AM

<< Nice. Use the PCGS price guide AND NGC logos in the picture of a cleaned EF and call it "MS-64+".

I call my Toyota a Maserati, but it's still a Toyota... >>

Ziggy- a bit OT, but if i can expand on what you said a bit.................why is it that every kid under 25 has a Japanese family sedan with a huge (read: mortar tube size) noisy exhaust pipe and has it lowered 3". Does anyone believe that a 4 door Honda accord with these "upgrades" can really hold a candle to the true muscle cars of the 60s?! sorry, had to rant a bit..

Tyler1924S · February 21, 2007 9:41AM

I prefer nicely restored 1960's Lincoln Continental's.

rcmlgm89 · February 21, 2007 9:49AM

WOW!!!
Seller was educated by watching the Coin Vault.

coinut1799 · February 21, 2007 9:58AM

<< Another ebay on ebay flipper who joined 3 weeks ago. I like the 1961 Franklin he bought for $6.39 on February 8th. He has it listed as a Cameo (8 hours to go and it's only at $1.04) with the suggestion/implication that it could be a 69. Maybe he should fly to Sarasota and get a pic of NGC headquarters for his background. Why not go all the way! >>

That's one of the funniest lines I've ever read here!

Rob85635 · February 21, 2007 10:06AM

I may be newer to this hobby, I might have been born at night (but not last night) but man that listing reeks. To me it borders on flat out fraud.

Rob the Newbie

Rampage · February 21, 2007 10:55AM

Did anyone notice the seller's statement in the big pink section that says:

<< "YOU MUST PAY FAIR MARKET VALUE AT THIS AUCTION"? >>

I wonder how he/she will get someone to pay UNC money for that coin.

sonoranmonsoon · February 21, 2007 12:41PM

Sad, very sad..................

pb2y · February 21, 2007 1:10PM

Oh what a tangled web we weave.
When we practice to deceive.

Sir Walter Scott
From "A tale Of Flodden Field"
1808

DIMEMAN · February 21, 2007 1:22PM

GET A ROPE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FIND A TREE .................................... THE REST WILL COME TO US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

options26 · February 21, 2007 1:35PM

Hmmmm, quick search of his address reveals that it is a rented mailbox at a UPS store. Everything smells like...., well you get the picture.

US RARE COIN COLLECTORS
902 KITTY HAWK SUITE 170-425
UNIVERSAL CITY, TX 78148

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The UPS Store # 2773
902 KITTY HAWK RD
UNIVERSAL CITY, TX 78148 - USA
Phone: (210)945-8821

DeusExMachina · February 21, 2007 2:13PM

"ITS UNBELIEVABLE CLEAN AND SPOTLESS CONDITION"

That's all he had to say........pass.

rec78 · February 21, 2007 3:38PM

Says he is a member of grading services.

Whatever that means.

rec78 · February 21, 2007 3:42PM

Return Policy:THIS COIN WILL COME WITH A 100 PERCENT MONEY BACK GUARANTEE! THIS IS THE PRETTIEST SEATED HALF I HAVE OWNED IN SOME TIME AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A RETURN I WOULD KEEP THE COIN FOR MY COLLECTION BUT I NEED TO PAY FOR A HUGE COLLECTION OF COINS I PURCHASED. SINCE ALL COINS START WITH A LOW RESERVE AND GRADING IS SUBJECTIVE AND WE LET YOU DETERMINE THE GRADE AND THE PRICE THERE WILL BE A NO RETURN ON ANY AUCTIONS.

Just exactly what does that mean?

RichieURich · February 22, 2007 12:28AM

<< Return Policy:THIS COIN WILL COME WITH A 100 PERCENT MONEY BACK GUARANTEE! THIS IS THE PRETTIEST SEATED HALF I HAVE OWNED IN SOME TIME AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A RETURN I WOULD KEEP THE COIN FOR MY COLLECTION BUT I NEED TO PAY FOR A HUGE COLLECTION OF COINS I PURCHASED. SINCE ALL COINS START WITH A LOW RESERVE AND GRADING IS SUBJECTIVE AND WE LET YOU DETERMINE THE GRADE AND THE PRICE THERE WILL BE A NO RETURN ON ANY AUCTIONS.

Just exactly what does that mean? >>

It means in the first half of an extremely long sentence he says there is a 100% money back guarantee and he has no problem with a return, and in the second half of the same sentence he says there will be a no return.

Since he contradicted himself in the same sentence, he is IMO either a liar or a politician. (This could be redundant.)

numisma · February 22, 2007 12:34AM

<< the seller appears to be a bigger POS than the coin >>

I was going to post to this thread, but barndog's post kinda says it all.

orie · February 22, 2007 12:40AM

Been on Ebay a many a year and this one wins the Blue Ribbon Award.

Zoins · February 22, 2007 1:12AM

<< Says he is a member of grading services.

Whatever that means. >>

"WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE A.N.A., P.C.G.S., N.G.C."

I bet it means they have PCGS/CU and NGC/CS forum accounts

Burks · February 22, 2007 9:26AM

<< 
Ziggy- a bit OT, but if i can expand on what you said a bit.................why is it that every kid under 25 has a Japanese family sedan with a huge (read: mortar tube size) noisy exhaust pipe and has it lowered 3". Does anyone believe that a 4 door Honda accord with these "upgrades" can really hold a candle to the true muscle cars of the 60s?! sorry, had to rant a bit.. >>

The louder your car = the faster it is.

Everything made by Honda = fast.

Psssst......some of those Honda's will blow the doors off muscle cars from the 60's/70's. Of course the mods just aren't bolt-on exhausts by any means. I know a kid with a 11.8 sec Honda Civic. Thinks he's Japanese (whiter than me and has all those Asian character tattoo's and crap on him AND the car), complete jackass.

Coin listing is a complete joke. The seller is a joke. The whole thing is a joke..............................................but I bid.

what a joke,

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