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Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
Superior October 1989 (Heifetz).

I am interested in the plate for lot 4369, which should be a proof classic head 1834 half eagle. I want to attribute it, but my copy is 3000 miles away and will remain that way for quite a while.
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Ed. S.

(EJS)

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have the catalog, but no means to attribute the coin. Help, please.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have the catalog, but no means to attribute the coin. Help, please. >>



    Can you show the photo, or should I give a quick attribution guide for the date?
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No scanner here. I'll need the guide.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ooops! Just found my 1989 COAC. Lemme see...
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
    First are the varieties listed. The auction listings are just plates of coins which should make them easy to attribute if you need to compare a few different ones; they are all online. The numbering system is McCloskey's from his 1989 COAC conference paper.

    1-A: see Her 11-06: 2172, St 1-07 (Americana): 5101
    2-A: see ANR 1-04: 457
    2-B: see St 10-06: 2143
    2-C: see ANR 6-06: 2543
    3-A: see ANR 3-06: 1599
    3-B: see ANR 3-05: 683
    3-C: see Her 11-06: 2173
    4-C: see St 3-06: 1807; Her 10-06: 2722
    5-D: see ANR 7-05: 227


    And the descriptions of the individual obverses and reverses:
    Obverses
    1: plain 4, fancy 8, 4 close to curl, 34 close, sometimes with cracks through *3 to *7
    2: plain 4 (tripled) , block 8, curl above r edge 4
    3: fancy 8, plain 4 far from curl, 34 wide, sometimes w/ crack from edge to center of lowest hair curl (3-A, 3-B weak)
    4: block 8, plain 4 near curl, close date, sometimes w/ crack from edge between *6 and *7 to
    hair to BE in LIBERTY
    5: crosslet 4, fancy 8

    Reverses
    A: no bud in branch, eagle has a tongue, left tip of feather right of center above 5, branch end just beyond right edge of period, leaf below right upright U (directions are relative to the letter viewed upright), an arrow touches final A and another is below left of center of C, TATE wide, sometimes w/ crack from edge to r wing tip (2-A, 3-A)
    B: no bud, no tongue, tip of feather right of center above 5, branch end just beyond right edge of period, leaf just beyond U, arrow is just free of A and another arrow is just beyond l edge A, sometimes w/ crack from edge to r wing (2-B, 3-B)
    C: small nearly invisible bud, eagle has a tongue, feather tip is just beyond right edge 5, branch end above left edge of period, leaf below UN, arrow is just free of A and another is below CA, ICA close, sometimes w/ crack from N through bases to D in UNITED (3-C), later also from N to edge above U (2-C)
    D: no bud, no tongue, feather quite left of center above 5, branch tip just left of period, leaf below right upright U, arrow is far from A (about 2 letter I widths) and to center of left upright A, R below E in AMERICA
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like McCloskey 3-A to me.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like McCloskey 3-A to me. >>



    How sure are you?
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How sure are you?

    Not 100%. How about posting an image of another 3-A?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
    Note the difference in the 8's between obverses 1&3 and obverses 2&4.

    Obverse 1: (not always with the die cracks)
    image

    Obverse 2:
    image

    Obverse 3:
    image

    Obverse 4:
    image

    Obverse 5:
    image




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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭
    Reverse dies:

    Reverse A: (with tongue, no bud)
    image

    Reverse B: (no tongue, no bud)
    image

    Reverse C: (with tongue, very weak bud between 1st and 2nd pairs of leaves)
    image

    Reverse D: (no bud, no tongue)
    image
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Make that 2-A.

    If you PM your address, I'll send you the pages from the catalog. Mine's falling apart, no need to keep it any longer.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have the catalog as well...let me know if I can help out...looks like you and Andy have it under control...

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