Warning: Fraudulent Ebay Ty1 Franklin Proof

bushmaster8 · February 20, 2007 2:55AM

This auction , for a Ty1 1956 Proof Franklin with a killer obverse only Cameo, is not a Ty1. It is a Ty2.

I told the seller when I viewed the coin in hand that it was a typo, and was a Ty2.

Segoja also told him the same thing.

So it is not like he doesn't know better! Shame on you Kevin!

lordmarcovan · February 20, 2007 2:57AM

If you're correct, shouldn't the lion's share of the shame go to NGC, for mislabeling it?

MadMarty · February 20, 2007 3:04AM

and the Star is not for eye appeal, it's for an almost CAM designation.

Myqqy · February 20, 2007 3:06AM

If you're correct, shouldn't the lion's share of the shame go to NGC, for mislabeling it?

He is responsible for his listing, and correctly describing the coin in question- regardless of the mistake made by ngc...

Bobk · February 20, 2007 3:10AM

Thanks Bush, I had that one on my watch list. Bob

Russ · February 20, 2007 3:15AM

<< and the Star is not for eye appeal, it's for an almost CAM designation. >>

That is eye appeal, nimrod.

Russ, NCNE

segoja · February 20, 2007 3:20AM

Message sent to seller!

He'll fix it!

MadMarty · February 20, 2007 3:21AM

<< 

<< and the Star is not for eye appeal, it's for an almost CAM designation. >>

That is eye appeal, nimrod.

Russ, NCNE >>

Bite me Turkeylips!

Jcarney · February 20, 2007 3:22AM

It looks like the reverse photo has been purposely tilted to make a determination of T1/T2 difficult. I sent the seller the following question:

Hi, this appears to be a mis-labeled slab. I believe the coin is a Type 2. Can you provide better reverse pics?

Thanks,

John

Let's see what he says.

Myqqy · February 20, 2007 3:23AM

I had seen that listing before this thread, and was reminded of how much I dislike one-sided wonders. I'm curious if anybody else has a disdain for one side only cameos?

Russ · February 20, 2007 3:30AM

<< I'm curious if anybody else has a disdain for one side only cameos? >>

Of course the goal is two sided, but a nice cameo obverse is still more appealing than a strictly brilliant coin.

Russ, NCNE

MadMarty · February 20, 2007 3:31AM

<< 

<< I'm curious if anybody else has a disdain for one side only cameos? >>

Of course the goal is two sided, but a nice cameo obverse is still more appealing than a strictly brilliant coin.

Russ, NCNE >>

and if anyone know Cameos it's Russ!!! (and PCGS!!!)

bushmaster8 · February 20, 2007 4:25AM

<< If you're correct, shouldn't the lion's share of the shame go to NGC, for mislabeling it? >>

No! NGC only shares a fraction of the blame! All grading services make these typos. They fix them for free.

I made the seller aware of the typo. He even refunded my purchase price when I bought the coin at a show, got it home and

, realized it was really a ty2.

I fully explained why I was returning the coin for refund.

At that point he should have either sent it to NGC to have the typo corrected, or else, pointed out the typo in the auction.

Instead he tried to foist it on to some unwary buyer. At least he offers a return priv. on it. I will give him at least a wee bit of credit for that.

grabba · February 20, 2007 4:29AM

Looks like he ended it.

Russ · February 20, 2007 4:35AM

Nothing like a little forum pressure to do the trick.

Russ, NCNE

Jcarney · February 20, 2007 4:40AM

<< Nothing like a little forum pressure to do the trick.

Russ, NCNE >>

percyb · February 20, 2007 4:44AM

What does the type 2 look like? Thanks.

grabba · February 20, 2007 4:52AM

<< Nothing like a little forum pressure to do the trick.

Russ, NCNE >>

Very powerful indeed.

bushmaster8 · February 20, 2007 4:58AM

Yes , boys and girls, believe it or not, there are dishonest coin dealers out there!

foxxze · February 20, 2007 5:03AM

<< Yes , boys and girls, believe it or not, there are dishonest coin dealers out there!

>>

he made a mistake , thats all - a couple times over !

Russ · February 20, 2007 5:04AM

<< What does the type 2 look like? Thanks. >>

Russ, NCNE

MadMarty · February 20, 2007 5:06AM

Kevin is a very nice dealer, maybe he just had a senior moment!!!

bushmaster8 · February 20, 2007 5:28AM

Agree, he is a nice guy. But I made it VERY clear why I was returning the coin.

And he would not forget that. Especially when you consider I look exactly like my avatar.

Warning: Fraudulent Ebay Ty1 Franklin Proof

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