This eBay coin doctor is dangerously good.
Russ
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Russ, NCNE
<< <i>If he gets any better, some of his work will end up in TPG holders.
Russ, NCNE >>
What makes you think it hasn't already?
DOn't foget about red copper. That's been going on a lot longer than the toning fad.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Much of what is accepted as NT in the Morgan series I don't believe is. Go back to the Continental Bank release and you pretty much saw the concentration of truly interesting toners. There were some bag toned and end-rollers additionally, but not anything like the numbers on the market currently in respectable holders ven. That isn't even considering the Battle Creek ones.
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<< <i>That's John You Moron Mel from a couple weeks ago. >>
It sure is.
He believes if you can't tell at from nt then you desrve what you get.
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<< <i>That's John You Moron Mel from a couple weeks ago. >>
It sure is.
He believes if you can't tell at from nt then you desrve what you get. >>
Oh, yes, I remember "John U. Moron"!
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<< <i>That's John You Moron Mel from a couple weeks ago. >>
I had almost forgot about that bright light in a sea of boredom
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Much of what is accepted as NT in the Morgan series I don't believe is. >>
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
<< <i>That's John You Moron Mel from a couple weeks ago. >>
As Claw used to famously say on the OF, "smoetimes I crack myself up"
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>This stuff could be a lot more convincing on a 1975 coin than a 2005 coin. >>
My thought exactly!
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
<< <i>This Frankie looks awfully close to natural:
Russ, NCNE >>
Might be??? Might not be??? That's what's scary.
you could not have said it better!!
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This is completely preposterous. The world has gone stark raving bonkers.
I'm at a loss for words.
Maybe he's been experimenting with his recipe...
<< <i>Oh yeah...that looks NT. Maybe I should post it on the pink coin thread.
Anyone who thinks this is an attractive collectible US coin deserves to pay an arm and a leg for it.
Believe it or not, but his photography is pretty accurate!!
<< <i>Geez Grabba, I wonder which is more cooked, the coin or the photo? Looks like he has Braddick doing his photography. >>
Looks like his little toning squirt gun got away from him on this
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<< <i>Geez Grabba, I wonder which is more cooked, the coin or the photo? Looks like he has Braddick doing his photography. >>
Looks like his little toning squirt gun got away from him on this
This is the reverse of that coin.....Geez!
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<< <i>Geez Grabba, I wonder which is more cooked, the coin or the photo? Looks like he has Braddick doing his photography. >>
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<< <i>So sad ---my brothers are paying big bucks for this stuff. >>
Well, get AT into some good plastic and lots of people will pay big bucks for color, whether it's on moderns, Morgans or Gobrechts.
If people really like this kind of color, I think it would be better to get them to try and make it themselves rather than to pay lots of money for it. This is similar to my recommendation for FS: order from the Mint and submit yourself for FS rather than buying on the secondary market.
When the US Mint starts selling NT stuff - what will you do then? Imagine a brand new BU-W Silver Eagle with toning like a Battle Creek Morgan.
Steve
<< <i>Look at what's happening here. Look at those discolored coins being sold as desirable, just because they have colors all over them. This toning craze had gotten so silly it's not possible to do satire on it. >>
This guy is trashing a bunch of coins, and selling them to fools. I can only imagine that he is using chemical stews which are much more concentrated and reactive than what exists in the surrounding environments when natural toning occurs.
Does anyone have a feel for what happens to AT coins in a few years? Do they turn into crud, or do they stay the way they are now?
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Russ has a point, maybe not with this guy getting too good to fool anyone, but if people do come up with a "recipe" to artificially tone coins where graders cannot decipher them from NT, it will put an end to premiums for toned coins, and everyone will eventually just accept that toning may or may not be naturally occuring over time. Sort of like how everyone accepts dipping coins or acetone baths as acceptable now. Anyway, when the demand for toned coins drops because so many ar AT, the scammers will lose their motivation for cooking these, which would actually help the hobby. And if these products are readily available to the public, people can just buy a bottle and tone their own coins--why pay someone else to do it? >>
There are many a coin that appear NT that aren't and many that appear AT that aren't. What the services look for is market acceptability. They have no way of knowing how a coin comes by its color.
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<< <i>Look at what's happening here. Look at those discolored coins being sold as desirable, just because they have colors all over them. This toning craze had gotten so silly it's not possible to do satire on it. >>
So, does this mean we are near the peak of toners/rainbows?
Thanks Russ for the post...an eye opener.
Some of the moderns actually look better...one could consider this as an enhancement program.
The George Washington Dollars look much better.
Ren
Most of the coins look AT and not even good AT. Unfortunately some of the coins look very similar to coins that you already see in some TPG holders.
Very sad turn of events. Things like this is what scared me away from the toner end of collecting even on coins that I felt were NT. If I can't trust myself it got very hard to trust the other guy.
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etexmike
<< <i>Most of the coins look AT and not even good AT. Unfortunately some of the coins look very similar to coins that you already see in some TPG holders. >>
IMO, that's only unfortunate if the similar looking coins already in TPG holders are NT. If the ones already in TPG holders are market acceptable AT, then this guy's better work may be "market acceptable" and he's just following in the footsteps of other market acceptable doctors....