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    krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    OK, got back to my copy of Coin World. The edge lettering machine has a large circular hopper on one end where the struck coins are placed. Centrifugal force drives the coins into a long straight channel. On one side of the channel is the "die" for the edge lettering which is set into a groove the width of the coin's thickness. On the other side of the channel is a steel wheel that forces the coin through the channel. As the coin travels through the channel, it rotates against the "die" and the edge lettering is applied. Then the coin is discharged into a box. Once the mint employee inspects a coin from the box and is satisfied with the quality, the box contents are released into a large steel hopper.

    Edge lettering machinery handles 1,000 coins per minute.

    The Mint will NOT strike Sackies at the same time as the Prexy dollars just to ensure no Sackie get edge lettered. The Prexy dollars will be made first, then the Sackies at the end of the year.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the forum, Ron! Stick around for the fireworks!
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    << <i>OK, got back to my copy of Coin World. The edge lettering machine has a large circular hopper on one end where the struck coins are placed. Centrifugal force drives the coins into a long straight channel. On one side of the channel is the "die" for the edge lettering which is set into a groove the width of the coin's thickness. On the other side of the channel is a steel wheel that forces the coin through the channel. As the coin travels through the channel, it rotates against the "die" and the edge lettering is applied. Then the coin is discharged into a box. Once the mint employee inspects a coin from the box and is satisfied with the quality, the box contents are released into a large steel hopper.

    Edge lettering machinery handles 1,000 coins per minute.

    The Mint will NOT strike Sackies at the same time as the Prexy dollars just to ensure no Sackie get edge lettered. The Prexy dollars will be made first, then the Sackies at the end of the year. >>



    will that stop a mint employee from using the machine at lunch?
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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,337 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Seems to me that if you found one of these (and perhaps a discovery piece) wouldn't you hold on to it for awhile and see if you could find more? Or wait to see just how rare it could end up being? I myself would not place on eBay right away. >>



    It's possible he found multiples and is running a test auction.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    It sounds like he did find a few...I quote from the auction: "This coin was handled only to photograph. I will be keeping the coin used for the photo. The winner will recieve an identical coin that went right from the roll to a plastic coin bag. "

    I wonder how many there are...L
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    Welcome to the forum, Ron! Pull up a chair! Sit down!
    We have been discussing your coin and your fingers and toes.
    Want some popcorn?

    Enjoy our company for a while!!


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    Hey Flaminio!
    Those the girl in your avatar have a moustache. Bring back the blunt girl
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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi All, First time on this forum. I am a detectorist and semi serious coin collector. My hands are in such bad shape from digging up coins and rings on the beach. I also have my own plumbing buisness. The Washington dollar I posted on E-bay is lagitamite, I got 2 in a roll, went through 2000 others and didn"t find any more. Talked to a friend that is an avid collector, he said you have 2 put 1 on e-bay now. you've got the first known example.

    Thanks, Chicago Ron >>



    HA HA HA!! That's a good one, Chicago Ron. We're all really stupid here on the forum, so we'll believe you.image
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    Buttered or plain?
    Salted or unsalted?
    Regular or lowfat?


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    loro1rojoloro1rojo Posts: 266 ✭✭✭
    This is a ploy by the US government to eliminate IGWT from our coinage!!

    Im just kidding... but I couldnt resist!
    -Gabe
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    << <i>Hi All, First time on this forum. I am a detectorist and semi serious coin collector. My hands are in such bad shape from digging up coins and rings on the beach. I also have my own plumbing buisness. The Washington dollar I posted on E-bay is lagitamite, I got 2 in a roll, went through 2000 others and didn"t find any more. Talked to a friend that is an avid collector, he said you have 2 put 1 on e-bay now. you've got the first known example.

    Thanks, Chicago Ron >>



    Good luck on your sale. I wish I had the cash to bid on it thats for sure!
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    Thanks guys for making me feel right at home. I'll have buttered please.
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    Thanks
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is a ploy by the US government to eliminate IGWT from our coinage!! >>

    Good one. The plain-edge Prexybucks are indeed godless image.

    << <i>Hey Flaminio!
    Those the girl in your avatar have a moustache. Bring back the blunt girl >>

    That's not a mustache; that's her lip. It's Kim Possible dude -- ask Russ about her, he's got the hots for the cartoon.
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    image to the forum Ron!








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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's Kim Possible dude -- ask Russ about her, he's got the hots for the cartoon. >>



    She makes my putter flutter.

    Russ, NCNE
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    mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Ron, nice of you to join us. Be sure to check out the metal detecting forum here as well.

    Ray

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    << <i>At least its a real error. >>



    I don't know how many of you have handled one of these coins, but I have. The edge lettering is very shallow. It would be a very
    simple task to polish it away. The edge on that coin is also very very shiny. All of the examples that I have handle were not like that. The edge was dull. I'd bet my left nut this is an alteration.

    Did you notice that he claims it is the first and only know example on ebay, then says that he has 2 of them?
    Looks like a scam to me.

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ya,I Found this one Metal Detecting.imageimage


    Hoard the keys.
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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK, got back to my copy of Coin World. The edge lettering machine has a large circular hopper on one end where the struck coins are placed. Centrifugal force drives the coins into a long straight channel. On one side of the channel is the "die" for the edge lettering which is set into a groove the width of the coin's thickness. On the other side of the channel is a steel wheel that forces the coin through the channel. As the coin travels through the channel, it rotates against the "die" and the edge lettering is applied. Then the coin is discharged into a box. Once the mint employee inspects a coin from the box and is satisfied with the quality, the box contents are released into a large steel hopper. >>


    Thanks, kranky. The mechanics are similar to the old Castiang machine for lettered edge bust coins - except much faster! Will not be many 70's out of that process, lots of handling.
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    Man, some of you guys are brutal. I'm sure there will be more of these pop up and it may be you!
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    Well said, Nick.
    Welcome, want some popcorn?


    Flaminio! Kim possible? I'm still hung up on Betty Rubble. She was the hottest two dimensional chick ever! Why, if I were Barney, I would be all over Betty, assuming a two dimensional character can be 'over' another two dimensional character. Kim needs a shave.
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    << <i>At least its a real error. >>



    I don't know how many of you have handled one of these coins, but I have. The edge lettering is very shallow. It would be a very
    simple task to polish it away. The edge on that coin is also very very shiny. All of the examples that I have handle were not like that. The edge was dull. I'd bet my left nut this is an alteration.

    Did you notice that he claims it is the first and only know example on ebay, then says that he has 2 of them?
    Looks like a scam to me. >>



    Hope you don't really lose that left nut!!LOL
    The edges look exactly like the front and reverse. I'll tell you what If you buy this coin and it is not real (unaltered) I will refund 150% of purchase price. And i believe this being posted on the forum makes it a binding offer.
    Chicago Ron
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    image Ron, thanks for showing up!
    Becky
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hats off to the seller. First on ebay with an error on a brand new coin. Hope he has a whole roll of them, he deserves it. Guess I'll have to buy some rolls now. (Ya know, he might be a plant from the mint just tryin to stir up some sales!)

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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461
    Could this be a planned blunder to tease our interest??
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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461
    No Thanks---I will polish my own edges
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    << <i>Could this be a planned blunder to tease our interest?? >>



    Very, very good point. Who knows.
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    Hey Ron, how many people do you have watching this auction right now? I'm one of them, LOL.
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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461
    This will turn out to be a great $1 rim job
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    There are 94 watchers.

    The edges look exactly like the front and reverse. I'll tell you what If you buy this coin and it is not real (unaltered) I will refund 150% of purchase price. And i believe this being posted on the forum makes it a binding offer.
    Chicago Ron >>

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    << <i>This will turn out to be a great $1 rim job >>



    Looks like someone is jealous.
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    mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This will turn out to be a great $1 rim job >>




    huh...huh, he said rim job image
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    He has an entire roll of them according the auction. I think this might be a common error then.

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    Good luck with your auction Ron. Thanks for showing up! image

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    bumanchubumanchu Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭

    Not Struck the Secomd Time TM??
    And I ain't lying this time.
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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461
    Oh yes, it would be faster to clamp an entire stack together and buff them all at once. A multiple skin job eh
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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461
    I befoe e cept afer c ?? I haf ben speeling "CHEIF" incoreckly fer 72 yars!!
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    Another coin for Ken Potter image

    Good luck with the auction!!image
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    bfjohnsonbfjohnson Posts: 541 ✭✭✭
    <Those look like toes. He's holding the coin with his feet. >
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    You ever notice how the questionable coins are always out of focus in the photos?!! Would it be common for Denver Mint coins to be put out in Chicago on the first day of issue instead of Philly? I have no idea....just asking.
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    << <i>Would it be common for Denver Mint coins to be put out in Chicago on the first day of issue instead of Philly? I have no idea....just asking. >>



    Good question. I live in Wisconsin and all the coins found in this area are Denver Mint. image
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    better photo of edge of Washington error coin.
    Chicago Ron
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,855 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You ever notice how the questionable coins are always out of focus in the photos?!! Would it be common for Denver Mint coins to be put out in Chicago on the first day of issue instead of Philly? I have no idea....just asking. >>



    We bought some from a bank here in Chicago, and they were D-Mints, as 90% of our coinage usually is.
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    Finally got a scan of washington dollar front, back, and side of error and non error.

    Chicago Ron
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    NeoStarNeoStar Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the forums Chicago Ron!!! Lot o'nuts on the line on this one! image
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the boards.
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    ChicagoRon, what's up with the photos? Why can't you just give us a clear shot of the error? What's with all the blurring and faded backgrounds and artistic looking shots........just get a clear shot and you might be more believable.
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    hahahah...chocolate center!! Why are we even discussing this. This obviously is not real. If it was, this guy wouldn't be messing around with all these questionable photos. It's real easy to just put the coin on a table, snap a clear photo and be done with it. This whole thing reminds me of Bigfoot......let's take a photo, make it a little blurry, but not too blurry.......just enough where you can see the object, but not quite make out what it is.
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    100!

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