1857-D Dahlonega gold dollar: guess the grade and explain it...

RYK · February 13, 2007 11:49AM

or just give your comments on the coin...or the weather where you are.

mirabela · February 13, 2007 11:54AM

That's a fun one. The strike is, well, terrible on the reverse ... but the obverse looks XF ... and the surfaces look plausibly unmolested although this is far outside my area of expertise (spoken as though I have one) so ...

My my my my my ... as someone might have said

PCGS VF30!

And the weather here is eerily calm. We are supposed to get our a&&es kicked tomorrow. I brought in a lot of wood this evening.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · February 13, 2007 11:57AM

PCGS XF45, coins like that have to be graded by their strongest aspects

291fifth · February 13, 2007 12:21PM

VF30 obverse, G6 reverse. Bodybag for weak strike (my opinion). Coins with that great a difference in grade from one side to the other should only receive an authentication notice on the holder, not a grade. The buyer can decide what it is worth.

Cladiator · February 13, 2007 12:23PM

VF20

mirabela · February 13, 2007 12:24PM

<< <i>VF30 obverse, G6 reverse. Bodybag for weak strike (my opinion). Coins with that great a difference in grade from one side to the other should only receive an authentication notice on the holder, not a grade. The buyer can decide what it is worth. >>

I love you, man.

Tell you one thing, I want to be there when you sell all your coins!

Seriously, I totally agree with regard to this coin -- not with the stated numbers, but with the notion that it has to be valued as the idiosyncrasy it is. Hopefully, anyone buying it knows that, regardless of what the plastic says.

Coinosaurus · February 13, 2007 12:27PM

I don't think you can BB it for weak strike. I'll guess they called it a VF.

goose3 · February 13, 2007 12:29PM

AU50.

horrible strike.

BigE · February 13, 2007 12:39PM

I think the reverse was cleaned so RYK carried it around 'till it graded

Nice weather for Trees in Oregon-------------BigE

speety · February 13, 2007 12:40PM

XF-45, horrible strike on the reverse tho

speety · February 13, 2007 12:41PM

O and the weather here sucks (in Ohio)

100proof1957 · February 13, 2007 12:42PM

45 dinged for a weak strike reverse !

mcheath · February 13, 2007 12:45PM

30, but I dont know enough about the issue to say what is a weak strike vs wear. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 40/45.

coinman420 · February 13, 2007 12:51PM

i won`t even try to grade it. i see much more detail in the obverse than the reverse. i`m not trying to hijack this thread or change the topic but before i found this forum i collected all my life and never knew the other mints except P, D &S. when i found this board i discovered "southern gold". my dad lives in northern georgia and i travel there every year, it just so happens a high school friend relocated there about 25 yrs ago(about an hour south). where does he live? Dahlonaga!! i`ve been going to his house for years and this last summer he took us over to his new property on the other side of his road(dirt) this new land he bought has a creek running through it and on one side of the creek there is a mound of soil running the length of his property. this is where they sifted the soil and deposited it on the riverbank. i was kind of awestruck. i was standing where possibly some of the gold was found for this mint. back to the OP, its an awesome coin and someday i will own some "southern gold". cheers

edited for spelling

RYK · February 13, 2007 12:52PM

The coin is a PCGS VF-20 holder and lives in the David Lawrence inventory.

I do not browse there often, but they usually have some interesting pieces.

The obverse of this coin looks like a nice XF-45/AU-50 obverse and has an original look to it. The reverse has an obvious strike issue. On the reverse, the way the denticles are missing from 12 to about 5 o'clock makes me wonder if there was some collar issue resulting in the unusually weak strike. This date is known for planchet problems and often has a weaker reverse than obverse, but not this weak. I would probably grade/price the coin in the VF-35 range, and David Lawrence has priced the coin as such.

As an aside, I am intrigued by coins that have unusual wear/strike patterns like this one.

dtkk49a · February 13, 2007 1:05PM

Is it possible this coin once resided in some peice of jewelery that caused the uneven wear?

1857-D Dahlonega gold dollar: guess the grade and explain it...

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