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Fletcher · February 12, 2007 4:14AM

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Dennis88 · February 12, 2007 4:28AM

Beautiful coin

Seems like a great strike with some nice original color, you made me jeaulous

Dennis

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 4:49AM

Thanks ... I find it amazing that most of the coins in this series have total pops in the twenties for all grades. How could someone actually put together an entire set?

Dennis88 · February 12, 2007 4:53AM

<< Thanks ... I find it amazing that most of the coins in this series have total pops in the twenties for all grades. How could someone actually put together an entire set? >>

Patience, patience and even more patience. And being in the right place at the right time....

Dennis

speety · February 12, 2007 7:17AM

Nice coin for your AU-58 type set! I'm getting gealous of your new purchases

Russ · February 12, 2007 10:18AM

<< I am actually kind of surprised that there weren't more bidders >>

That tell you anything? BTW, if you think that coin is "original", you need to look up the numismatic definition of the word.

Russ, NCNE

coindeuce · February 12, 2007 10:22AM

Cleaned. Dipped. Poorly rinsed. Retoning fugly. But it's a low pop. and thASS all that matters, right?

tmot99 · February 12, 2007 10:23AM

That makes 2 coins of this series that you've picked up recently for less than you were willing to pay.

Either you are getting really good deals, the market is getting weak, or you are willing to pay too much. I'd bet #1 or #2.

ebaytrader · February 12, 2007 10:46AM

<< 

<< I am actually kind of surprised that there weren't more bidders >>

That tell you anything? BTW, if you think that coin is "original", you need to look up the numismatic definition of the word.

Russ, NCNE >>

It's a shame the thing was tortured that way. The coin looks new to me.

theFonz · February 12, 2007 10:53AM

<< Cleaned. Dipped. Poorly rinsed. Retoning fugly. But it's a low pop. and thASS all that matters, right? >>

I'll second this, it appears to be one of those coins that was dipped before submitting, then turned in the hold due to improper neutralizing of the acid.

You got burnt, unless you're really just collecting labels.

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 10:57AM

Funny how Russ and Coin Deuce never have nything nice to say about anything. I thought that we had just decided to stay out of each others way ... I guess not! By the way ... have you seen this coin in hand Russ or CoinDeuce? No? I thought not

coindeuce · February 12, 2007 10:57AM

<< 

<< Cleaned. Dipped. Poorly rinsed. Retoning fugly. But it's a low pop. and thASS all that matters, right? >>

I'll second this, it appears to be one of those coins that was dipped before submitting, then turned in the hold due to improper neutralizing of the acid.

You got burnt, unless you're really just collecting labels. >>

Collecting labels. Priceless.

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 10:58AM

CoinDouche ... priceless. I guess our unofficial agreement to spare the rest of the board this type of drivel is over ... BRING IT ON BOYS

coindeuce · February 12, 2007 10:59AM

<< CoinDouche ... priceless

>>

Sorry Flusher. The OF is closed.

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:01AM

<< 

<< CoinDouche ... priceless

>>

Sorry Flusher. The OF is closed. >>

Then quit being a dickhead ... we don't care if you are Boy Wonder to Russ' Batman

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:01AM

ziggy29 · February 12, 2007 11:03AM

Chiming in here...

I never claim my coins are "original" in the general case because I don't know. However, I usually try for coins that look more original, though I will buy a lightly dipped coin on occasion if it's otherwise "all there." Here's the Seated Quarter I bought a couple months ago for the 1877 type set I'm starting to dabble in. It looks like an original coin could look, and if it's been messed with, that's the doctor I want performing my brain surgery if I ever need it. This one is PCGS 63.

Russ · February 12, 2007 11:03AM

<< Funny how Russ and Coin Deuce never have nything nice to say about anything. >>

You should thank us. We could blow smoke up your ass, and tell you what a great purchase you made. Instead, we're giving you the facts. Maybe, if that happens enough, you'll stop getting bent over buying coins about which you know nothing. Consider it a public service.

Russ, NCNE

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:08AM

<< You should thank us. We could blow smoke up your ass, and tell you what a great purchase you made. Instead, we're giving you the facts. Maybe, if that happens enough, you'll stop getting bent over buying coins about which you know nothing. Consider it a public service.

Russ, NCNE >>

We all know your intent here. Things have been civil for a while ... why not just let that continue instead resuming your petty attacks. I could give a $4it and I'll return your fire all day long, but it seems like the rest of the board likes it better when you are not incessantly poking at people until they respond.

coindeuce · February 12, 2007 11:08AM

I suppose in your world that the definition of dickhead is: one who gives an honest opinion based on an observation. Take the opinion ANY WAY you want to. It's your money and your choice. but don't come crying here when you wake up and realize the truth hurts only when YOU realize it's true.
...and since when is an honest opinion a "petty attack"? Since you aquired too much discretionary income and no education?

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:11AM

<< I suppose in your world that the definition of dickhead is: one who gives an honest opinion based on an observation. Take the opinion ANY WAY you want to. It's your money and your choice. but don't come crying here when you wake up and realize the truth hurts only when YOU realize it's true. >>

It is not an honest observation nor is it truth. It is another one of your petty attacks intended to draw a wiley response ... and you have now received the attention that you are so desparately trying to get. Now, go bother someone else little boy

RYK · February 12, 2007 11:11AM

<< 

<< 

<< CoinDouche ... priceless

>>

Sorry Flusher. The OF is closed. >>

Then quit being a dickhead ... we don't care if you are Boy Wonder to Russ' Batman

>>

I have got to step in here.

First, I am Boy Wonder™.

Second, in the past I have similarly purchased low pop seated branch mint coinage on an impulse (an 1862-S dime in a PCGS XF-45 holder), only to later realize that there are a lot more of these raw than I would have ever imagined. Check out Dick Osburn's inventory, and you will see what I mean.

Third, I cannot affirm or deny the coin originality, but there is a funky line that goes from 1 o'clock to 9 o'clock that separates a darker, mottled area from a lighter area that would certainly give me pause.

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:13AM

RYK ... you have been on these boards for a while and you know what Russ and CoinDeuce are trying to accomplish with their posts. You are not naive enough to think that they are trying to help ME out in the least.

RYK · February 12, 2007 11:16AM

<< RYK ... you have been on these boards for a while and you know what Russ and CoinDeuce are trying to accomplish with their posts. You are not naive enough to think that they are trying to help ME out in the least. >>

Fletcher,

I do not know CoinDeuce enough to say.

When I say post wrong or stupid, BatMan comes at me with the same smart aleck responses as he does you. I have learned over time while the truth often hurts, he is rarely, if ever, wrong.

The Real Robin™

Russ · February 12, 2007 11:19AM

You know, you can lead a horse to cyanide and sometimes you don't even have to force them to drink it. Fletcher, your ignorance is bliss - to coin dealers.

Russ, NCNE

theFonz · February 12, 2007 11:19AM

<< RYK ... you have been on these boards for a while and you know what Russ and CoinDeuce are trying to accomplish with their posts. You are not naive enough to think that they are trying to help ME out in the least. >>

You totally discounted my take on the coin.

I don't know you from Adam, you signed up here after I stopped doing much posting. That coin has all the classic traits of a coin that was dipped and turned in the holder.

coindeuce · February 12, 2007 11:22AM

<< 

<< I suppose in your world that the definition of dickhead is: one who gives an honest opinion based on an observation. Take the opinion ANY WAY you want to. It's your money and your choice. but don't come crying here when you wake up and realize the truth hurts only when YOU realize it's true. >>

It is not an honest observation nor is it truth. It is another one of your petty attacks intended to draw a wiley response ... and you have now received the attention that you are so desparately trying to get. Now, go bother someone else little boy

>>

And how certain are you that I wasn't the previous owner of your new prize big boy? Think about it, think real hard...

Rodius · February 12, 2007 11:33AM

<< 

<< Funny how Russ and Coin Deuce never have nything nice to say about anything. >>

You should thank us. We could blow smoke up your ass, and tell you what a great purchase you made. Instead, we're giving you the facts. Maybe, if that happens enough, you'll stop getting bent over buying coins about which you know nothing. Consider it a public service.

Russ, NCNE >>

Sometimes it is hard to hear that you have got screwed. You all have taught me so much. Keep the honest feedback a comin'

Louis · February 12, 2007 11:34AM

The truth don't hurt unless it ought to.

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:38AM

<< The truth don't hurt unless it ought to. >>

Nothing that a few bozos say or do on this forum hurts in the least ... just out of curiousty, why did you just revive that year-old thread that attempted to make me look bad because Laura sells me high end DMPLs Louis? Was it simply to be a dick or was there a more enlightened reason?

ziggy29 · February 12, 2007 11:42AM

Well, this is getting POOFED now.

Louis · February 12, 2007 11:47AM

saintguru · February 12, 2007 11:47AM

<< Well, this is getting POOFED now. >>

The dick quota is running amok.

theFonz · February 12, 2007 11:48AM

<< 

<< The truth don't hurt unless it ought to. >>

Nothing that a few bozos say or do on this forum hurts in the least ... just out of curiousty, why did you just revive that year-old thread that attempted to make me look bad because Laura sells me high end DMPLs Louis? Was it simply to be a dick or was there a more enlightened reason? >>

That thread quite clearly demonstrates your integrity in dealing with other numismatists. It's quite revealing.

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:48AM

<<

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That is about what I thought that your response would be

Fletcher · February 12, 2007 11:51AM

<< That thread quite clearly demonstrates your integrity in dealing with other numismatists. It's quite revealing. >>

Enlighten us all ... how does that thread demonstrate my numismatic integrity? Did I cheat someone in that thread? Did I dip or AT a coin in that thread? Did I take payment on a coin book and not deliver in that thread? Did I rip off an old lady at my coin shop in that thread?

PokerGenius · February 12, 2007 11:58AM

PokerGenius · February 12, 2007 12:18PM

Fletcher....why does Russ' opinion bother you so much. from what i understand he's pretty sharp and well respected in this and at leasta few other communities. Does his knowledge frighten you?

techeff · February 12, 2007 12:18PM

Great coin Fetcher!

PokerGenius · February 12, 2007 12:21PM

Was the assessment made by russ wrong in someway?

postalamericana · February 12, 2007 10:07PM

Nice coin. Glad you got it. I was an underbidder.

seateddime · February 12, 2007 10:08PM

<< Well, this is getting POOFED now. >>

Barndog · February 12, 2007 10:35PM

I appreciate the strike and preservation of details on this coin, I am just not a fan of its surfaces.

Russ · February 13, 2007 12:44AM

<< I'll step in w/my 2 cents-I can't quite tell how the coin is via an image-however, that date and grade certainly are an INTELLIGENT purchase. >>

So, Laura, if this was such a smart purchase, why didn't you step up and buy it?

Russ, NCNE

lava · February 13, 2007 2:29AM

<< I appreciate the strike and preservation of details on this coin, I am just not a fan of its surfaces. >>

Since I do not clean coins this is outside of my expertise, but might the surfaces improve if cracked out, dipped, and rinsed properly. The surfaces will never be original, but my question is might the surfaces at least be improved, if done properly? And if so, wouldn't the strike and detail be easier to appreciate.

SFDukie · February 13, 2007 2:32AM

<< I appreciate the strike and preservation of details on this coin, I am just not a fan of its surfaces. >>

Testify brother!

ss350camaro · February 13, 2007 3:38AM

Fletcher,

Since there is obviously some controversy about your ability to 'see' and grade a coin for what it 'might' actually be, please enlighten us as to your qualifications to recognize and determine a coins condition. ie: original as compared to 'messed' with.... etc ....

I think explaining your Numismatic knowledge, and how it was gained, would go a long way in quieting the naysayers.

Thanks

pbfloyd · February 13, 2007 3:42AM

I think explaining your Numismatic knowledge, and how it was gained, would go a long way in quieting the naysayers.

theFonz · February 13, 2007 3:52AM

<< I think explaining your Numismatic knowledge, and how it was gained, would go a long way in quieting the naysayers.

Just joking around.......The coin is what it is >>

Priceless.

seanq · February 13, 2007 3:59AM

<< Fletcher,

Since there is obviously some controversy about your ability to 'see' and grade a coin for what it 'might' actually be, please enlighten us as to your qualifications to recognize and determine a coins condition. ie: original as compared to 'messed' with.... etc ....

I think explaining your Numismatic knowledge, and how it was gained, would go a long way in quieting the naysayers.

Thanks

>>

Isn't this getting a bit ridiculous? Do we really need people to post references every time they share a new purchase?

Fletcher, what matters is that PCGS liked the coin and presumably you like the coin too. If you're not prepared to hear dissenting opinions on the coin, you probably shouldn't post it in the first place. That said, it would be refreshing of some of those "naysayers" could separate their opinion of the coin from their opinion of the OP. All this "fool and his money" stuff is doing nothing to advance anyone's understanding of the merits or demerits of the coin.

There, I hope I didn't dent the soapbox.

Sean Reynolds

Tonelover · February 13, 2007 4:12AM

This 2nd grade schoolyard bully act is depressing, can't you guys find something better to do than always trying to bring people down? I just had my first transaction with Fletcher and it couldn't have gone more smoothly. He's a heck of a lot more pleasant than some of you and is welcome back any time.

Maybe some of you guys could wow us with YOUR numismatic knowledge. Please post some of your newest purchases so we can see the level of perfection that we should all be striving for.

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