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This has got to be the best Franklin Grade Ever - NOT!

In our last episode, COINB0Y ignorantly (not that it mattered, now) submitted to PCGS a 1963 Franklin Proof in a PVC sleeve.

The victim was purchased on the ‘fine advice’ and urging of a local 87 year old, Coin dealer who shall go un-named.

Received the Body Bag today and I have taken autopsy Photos.

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Can this Frankie be saved?

Taco Sauce?, Fire Hose?, Sandpaper?, Flame-thrower or delicate use of Chemicals? Better Yet, is it worth Saving?

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Thanks in Advance to all!

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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Soak it in acetone for a while, should do the trick

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
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    Wow, that edge shot is an excellent example of PVC contamination. Saved...thanks!
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I'd spend it.

    Russ, NCNE
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    cho10cho10 Posts: 391 ✭✭
    100% pure Acetone (not the nail polish stuff) that has been described in numerous threads here will do the trick.
    It can be purchased at a hardware store that has a good assortment and it is not expensive.


    I have sent 10 different coins to ANACS only to received them back with PVC marked on the flip (I only use mylar).


    ANACS accepts the same coins back after cleansing (NOT CLEANING) and charges 5 dollars for slabbing.


    Don't manhandle, rub, scrape, etc. just leave to soak in acetone for anywhere up to 7 days (according to how severe the PVC contamination is).
    I have found that 2 to 3 hours usually is enough.
    Use gloves to handle acetone (make sure that the material won't be "eaten" by acetone (so no latex, flimsy plastic, etc.) because it will burn your hands.
    I wear goggles too (just to be on the safe side) because I wear soft contact lenses and as acetone fumes are fairly intense I want to avoid the contact lenses getting impregnated and thereby ruined.
    cho10

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    I agree with Russ here. A '63 proof Franklin, unless DCAM, isn't really worth the trouble.
    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin


    My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Acetone it first, then dip it to remove the haze. Then sell it for $7 on ebay and don't waste any more submission fees.
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    << <i>Acetone it first, then dip it to remove the haze. Then sell it for $7 on ebay and don't waste any more submission fees. >>



    No need to use Jewelluster here... acetone will remove the PVC haze... image
    -George
    42/92
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    Whelp, I always have liked playing with Chemicals since I was a kid..

    .afterwards....I'll try to re-submit on a free-be

    and if it comes back, me and my 3-year old daughter will put it in the Stuffed Animal Crane Machine at Target.

    I'll let her take a shot at 2 claw drops.

    If she wins, I'll take (and replace) the stuffed animal (when she's napping) and bring it over to the coin dealer and let him explain image


    THANK YOU again, TO ALL YOU PROFESSIONALS for the sound advice!
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    I'm curious, not trying to be a wise guy (really)...did the PVC problem develop en route? I'm guessing that you have seen nice Franklin proofs before, so it probably went bad after you sent it, right? Otherwise you wouldn't have submitted the coin image
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    image Well said.

    And this sure is a lot of drama over an ugly cheap coin image
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    p.v.c. that thick takes some time to develop .
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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461
    Not worth the trouble
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Just for kicks and curiousity- I would soak in acetone and give it a nice dip.... then show us what it looks like!
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    Myqqy,

    Here is Frankie after almost two days in the Acetone w/o any dip.

    Look at all the pitting from the PVC. I took these photos under a 60X magnification.

    I could do him another 2-3 days, however all I will end up with is a 'moonscape' proof after all of the PVC is dissolved from the Coin.

    It is very sad.


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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    This would be a good candidate to use as a pocket piece.image
    I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.
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    What's a 'pocket piece'?

    OK, thanks, Myqqy!
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    A pocket piece is just a coin that you carry around with you in your pocket- so you can impart some good ol' fashioned rub and wear off any problems... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm curious, what possessed you to send the coin to PCGS to begin with?

    Isn't the grading fee higher than whatever realistic value they'll assign the coin.

    Bruce
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    I'm curious, what possessed you to send the coin to PCGS to begin with?

    It was a FREE submission.

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