NGC Population as of 1/29/07 is a combined figure of 8,802. PCGS as of 2/4/07 is a combined figure of 5,162. ANACS last reported their total way back in 11/05 which was in the 500's. How many are regrades and crossovers !! Have a great day !! Mark.
News from across the street !!! For the week ending 2/5/07, NGC did not grade "Any" Wisconsin Extra Leaf State Quarters !! The population figures remained unchanged from NGC's 1/29/07 census !! I wonder what's happening to all of those Tons of Extra Leaf Quarters that were supposedly minted ?? Have a great day !! Mark.
<< <i>News from across the street !!! For the week ending 2/5/07, NGC did not grade "Any" Wisconsin Extra Leaf State Quarters !! The population figures remained unchanged from NGC's 1/29/07 census !! I wonder what's happening to all of those Tons of Extra Leaf Quarters that were supposedly minted ?? Have a great day !! Mark. >>
maybe koinpro is hoarding them?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
I have a strong hunch that there are many more out there being held back. I know if I had a handful, I'd hold for prices to go even higher and then release a couple every once in a while. I would almost bet that scenario will happen. Regards Kip
<< <i>I have a strong hunch that there are many more out there being held back. I know if I had a handful, I'd hold for prices to go even higher and then release a couple every once in a while. >>
While this is true to an extent, the key is that less than 10,000 of each have been graded by the TPGs. I think the rarity of them and the popularity of the State quarters will only increase their value. As for the hordes, I think that more of the coins need to find their way INTO the market in order for interest to continue in the extra leafs. Collectors will throw their hands up and blow off the extra leaf quarters if they are in too few hands and hard to acquire.
Perry
TheZooKrew Morgan, modern sets, circulated Kennedys, and Wisconsin error leaf quarter Collector First (and only - so far) Official "You Suck" Award from Russ 2/9/07
It is great that professional coin dealers such as Rick Snow at Eagle Eye Rare Coins in Tucson, AZ offer very nice, graded Wisconsin Extra Leaf State Quarters to evey coin collector per his first class web site... www.indaincents.com
With 15,000 graded by PCGS, NGC, ANACS and ICG as an estimated combined total for both varieties, there should be enough supply to satisfy the most ardent state quarter and variety coin collector.
Still the famous saying " It you snooze you loose" applies in the case of these estimated 20,000 combined mintage of both varieties.
Actually I only have less than 5 MS65 sets left. I have 6 MS64 sets. I have some Low leaf singles (20 or so). The dealers in Tucson are eager buyers but we all sell them. No one is holding out for "moon" money - just a fair market value.
Did anyone notice the WI quarter reference in my post regarding the 1856 FE Cent Sesqicentennial? This is part of my write-up for the Long Beach Goldberg's sale.
Lot 914 1856 Flying Eagle Cent. Snow 3. PCGS graded Proof 64. The 1856 Flying Eagle Cent has long been a favorite of collectors. In fact it was partly responsible for jump-starting coin collecting in America in the late 1850's. Starting in 1857, the general population began to put away and make date sets of the old coppers that were being replaced by the new nickel cent with the popular Flying Eagle design. Adding to the excitement of the time were rumors of a rare nickel cent dated 1856 that was given out to President Franklin Pierce, and various Government dignitaries. If you wanted one you had to look long and hard to find one or pay up big-time! By 1858 they were fetching $2.00 at auction. This was similar to about a weekly wage for many people! You could think of this as akin to collectors buying 2004 dated coins for about $500 today!
Trio Set of NGC Wisconsin Extra Leaf Quarters graded 66 NGC is up to $1,700.00 on Ebay tonight, Saturday, 2/10/07 and the auction still has 22 hours to go !! Why the nice price jump !!! Stay tuned and have a great day collecting US Coins !! Mark.
IMHO, The Wisconsin Extra Leaf State Quarter Set of three coins all in one NGC Trio Coin Lense brings a higher price on Ebay or in Coin World. I say that because it is much more difficult to complete the three coin set having all three coins be the same grade. Just ask the bulk department "across the street" !! Keep in mind that when Rick Snow of Eagle Eye Rare Coins and Bob Ford offered the 100 Bob Ford Wisconsin Extra Leaf Sets Discovery Sets back in early 2005, all 100 sets were housed in three coin multi-coin holders. Many people associate the Wisconsin sets and the single three coin holder.
I guess the price jump is because people are starting to realize that they better get them now before others realize that they want them too and have to pay an even higher price.
<< <i>Someone is very Happy !! The second of only two Wisconsin Extra Low Leaf State Quarters was graded PCGS MS 67 last week !!! Congratulations !!! Mark. >>
Yeah, and just like "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction", you can bet the owner of the (previously) only set of PCGS MS67 coins is just as saddened to see that 2nd set
Russ....you should ask Steve how he feels next coin show
As you wish Pharmer.... Absolutely... Q: Who is the Director of the US Mint? ... so when you find out .. take a very close examination of what he is wearing. Let me you if you find anything unusal about his clothes and maybe read his bio, etc. Have a wonderful week collectors!
Telsa is one of the greatest inventors of all time! Render to Caesar's what is Caesars and give to God what is God's.
<< <i>As you wish Pharmer.... Absolutely... Q: Who is the Director of the US Mint? ... so when you find out .. take a very close examination of what he is wearing. Let me you if you find anything unusal about his clothes and maybe read his bio, etc. Have a wonderful week collectors! >>
I see nothing unusual...they're nice clothes. Nice hanky. It sounds like you may object to the fact he's pretty tight with Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. and that he's on the board of a Christian organization?
<< <i>My high leaf ANACS67 looks as nice as those do. >>
Then, even if you want to hold them and not sell for awhile, I would recommend trying to cross them. If they do cross, you just went up 5 figures, most likely. Why anacs in the first place?
I like the new holders . I realise the price differential . Maybe some time in the future I will get some of them crossed over if nobody comes to the same conclusion that the coins are the subject not the holders. All my Wisconsins are in ANACS holders, and I have a lot of them.
One of only two Wisconsin Extra Low Leaf Statehood Quarters graded MS 67 by PCGS is on Ebay as of last night. Take a look at this rare Variety Quarter !! Ebay # 190085661792. Have a great day !! Mark.
In a coin shop recently, I overheard a buy/sell transaction between a customer and the dealer. The dealer said they pay $70 for the high leaf and $40 for the low leaf variety. After the customer left (he sold his high leaf quarter that he got in change), the dealer and his assistants were talking about the quarters and their consensus was that these things are tough to sell. Some market-maker they used to sell to was no longer buying. At least that is what I got from the conversation.
<< <i>In a coin shop recently, I overheard a buy/sell transaction between a customer and the dealer. The dealer said they pay $70 for the high leaf and $40 for the low leaf variety. After the customer left (he sold his high leaf quarter that he got in change), the dealer and his assistants were talking about the quarters and their consensus was that these things are tough to sell. Some market-maker they used to sell to was no longer buying. At least that is what I got from the conversation. >>
Wow, I'd pay that all day long, every day.
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My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
<< <i>In a coin shop recently, I overheard a buy/sell transaction between a customer and the dealer. The dealer said they pay $70 for the high leaf and $40 for the low leaf variety. After the customer left (he sold his high leaf quarter that he got in change), the dealer and his assistants were talking about the quarters and their consensus was that these things are tough to sell. Some market-maker they used to sell to was no longer buying. At least that is what I got from the conversation. >>
Did you buy it from them? Quick flip for $80
Did you at least ask how much they would sell for? (What condition was it in? AU?
If I owned a coin shop I would try to buy them as cheaply as posible too. They will have no problem at all of selling ththose coins at a handsome profit no matter what the condition.
I see ... humm... so how come one day I saw one person sell a BU raw low leaf for $85 and stop back the next day to see what the coin shop was selling for ... $150 and that was not even a circulated coin which is probably what that guy sold to your local coin shop! LOL
Telsa is one of the greatest inventors of all time! Render to Caesar's what is Caesars and give to God what is God's.
Important News concerning Wisconsin Extra Leaf Statehood Quarters: Go to www.coinworld.com Today's News Headlines. Coin Variety Expert proves that Wisconsin Extra High and Extra Low Leaf Statehood Quarters were created intentionally before the die was hardened !! This will be the subject of an article in the next Coin World Magazine. Maybe some coin experts who profess the "Die Gouge Theory" will finally accept the "TRUTH" !! Stay Tuned and have a great day !! Mark.
<< <i>Important News concerning Wisconsin Extra Leaf Statehood Quarters: Go to www.coinworld.com Today's News Headlines. Coin Variety Expert proves that Wisconsin Extra High and Extra Low Leaf Statehood Quarters were created intentionally before the die was hardened !! This will be the subject of an article in the next Coin World Magazine. Maybe some coin experts who profess the "Die Gouge Theory" will finally accept the "TRUTH" !! Stay Tuned and have a great day !! Mark. >>
If true it will make this more of a type than a variety. Many more collectors will add it to their sets.
<< <i>Could someone post what the article says.Thanks >>
Judging from the Coin World blurb and what I've heard elsewhere, there are two important ideas:
a) the gouges/leaves/markings were made pre-hardening of the dies. b) Tool markings suggest that the gouges/leaves/markings are intentional
I've been skeptical of this variety, and will remain so until at least after I've read this article, so I really can't say anything more about it for a couple of weeks given how mail delivery is here. Point (b) is especially intriguing to me, since that is what I would have looked for to see if they were intentionally made or not. I do wonder why there were not noticed before, or how it can explain the "gouginess" of the markings.
Point (a) I must say I take some perverse pleasure in. It is quite believable as there are apparently no "gougless/leafless" coins from these dies. And what it would suggest is that all the theories that the "intentional gang" have posted here about mint lunch breaks, same press, same time of striking would be completely and utterly irrelevant. And it would seem to suggest that up to date the "intentional gang" really have not had good reasons to hold to their position. If it does turn out they were right, it was just by pure dumb luck.
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MS64 PCGS sets are still $650.
<< <i>News from across the street !!! For the week ending 2/5/07, NGC did not grade "Any" Wisconsin Extra Leaf State Quarters !! The population figures remained unchanged from NGC's 1/29/07 census !! I wonder what's happening to all of those Tons of Extra Leaf Quarters that were supposedly minted ?? Have a great day !! Mark. >>
maybe koinpro is hoarding them?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Regards
Kip
<< <i>I have a strong hunch that there are many more out there being held back. I know if I had a handful, I'd hold for prices to go even higher and then release a couple every once in a while. >>
While this is true to an extent, the key is that less than 10,000 of each have been graded by the TPGs. I think the rarity of them and the popularity of the State quarters will only increase their value. As for the hordes, I think that more of the coins need to find their way INTO the market in order for interest to continue in the extra leafs. Collectors will throw their hands up and blow off the extra leaf quarters if they are in too few hands and hard to acquire.
Perry
Morgan, modern sets, circulated Kennedys, and Wisconsin error leaf quarter Collector
First (and only - so far) Official "You Suck" Award from Russ 2/9/07
With 15,000 graded by PCGS, NGC, ANACS and ICG as an estimated combined total for both varieties, there should be enough supply to satisfy the most ardent state quarter and variety coin collector.
Still the famous saying " It you snooze you loose" applies in the case of these estimated 20,000 combined mintage of both varieties.
Have a great day collecting US Coins !!! Mark.
Actually I only have less than 5 MS65 sets left. I have 6 MS64 sets. I have some Low leaf singles (20 or so). The dealers in Tucson are eager buyers but we all sell them. No one is holding out for "moon" money - just a fair market value.
Did anyone notice the WI quarter reference in my post regarding the 1856 FE Cent Sesqicentennial? This is part of my write-up for the Long Beach Goldberg's sale.
Lot 914 1856 Flying Eagle Cent. Snow 3. PCGS graded Proof 64. The 1856 Flying Eagle Cent has long been a favorite of collectors. In fact it was partly responsible for jump-starting coin collecting in America in the late 1850's. Starting in 1857, the general population began to put away and make date sets of the old coppers that were being replaced by the new nickel cent with the popular Flying Eagle design. Adding to the excitement of the time were rumors of a rare nickel cent dated 1856 that was given out to President Franklin Pierce, and various Government dignitaries. If you wanted one you had to look long and hard to find one or pay up big-time! By 1858 they were fetching $2.00 at auction. This was similar to about a weekly wage for many people! You could think of this as akin to collectors buying 2004 dated coins for about $500 today!
All coin collectors have a great day !! Mark.
Congratulations !!! Mark.
<< <i>Someone is very Happy !! The second of only two Wisconsin Extra Low Leaf State Quarters was graded PCGS MS 67 last week !!!
Congratulations !!! Mark. >>
Yeah, and just like "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction", you can bet the owner of the (previously) only set of PCGS MS67 coins is just as saddened to see that 2nd set
Russ....you should ask Steve how he feels next coin show
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Let me you if you find anything unusal about his clothes and maybe read his bio, etc. Have a wonderful week collectors!
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>As you wish Pharmer.... Absolutely... Q: Who is the Director of the US Mint? ... so when you find out .. take a very close examination of what he is wearing.
Let me you if you find anything unusal about his clothes and maybe read his bio, etc. Have a wonderful week collectors!
I see nothing unusual...they're nice clothes. Nice hanky. It sounds like you may object to the fact he's pretty tight with Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. and that he's on the board of a Christian organization?
I'm having a wonderful week.
Ren
Ok Boy wonder ... here's the riddle?: What does the director's hanky look like?
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
I don't see many decent raw leafs around anymore! Guess these where pretty rare if you got em'.
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
Here's the MS-68 NGC three piece set.
WI Extra Leaves MS-68 3-piece set on Heritage ANA sale
<< <i>My high leaf ANACS67 looks as nice as those do. >>
Then, even if you want to hold them and not sell for awhile, I would recommend trying to cross them. If they do cross, you just went up 5 figures, most likely.
Why anacs in the first place?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
<< <i>In a coin shop recently, I overheard a buy/sell transaction between a customer and the dealer. The dealer said they pay $70 for the high leaf and $40 for the low leaf variety. After the customer left (he sold his high leaf quarter that he got in change), the dealer and his assistants were talking about the quarters and their consensus was that these things are tough to sell. Some market-maker they used to sell to was no longer buying. At least that is what I got from the conversation. >>
Wow, I'd pay that all day long, every day.
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
<< <i>In a coin shop recently, I overheard a buy/sell transaction between a customer and the dealer. The dealer said they pay $70 for the high leaf and $40 for the low leaf variety. After the customer left (he sold his high leaf quarter that he got in change), the dealer and his assistants were talking about the quarters and their consensus was that these things are tough to sell. Some market-maker they used to sell to was no longer buying. At least that is what I got from the conversation. >>
Did you buy it from them? Quick flip for $80
Did you at least ask how much they would sell for? (What condition was it in? AU?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>I like the new holders . >>
$150 and that was not even a circulated coin which is probably what that guy sold to your local coin shop! LOL
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
<< <i>Important News concerning Wisconsin Extra Leaf Statehood Quarters: Go to www.coinworld.com Today's News Headlines. Coin Variety Expert proves that Wisconsin Extra High and Extra Low Leaf Statehood Quarters were created intentionally before the die was hardened !! This will be the subject of an article in the next Coin World Magazine. Maybe some coin experts who profess the "Die Gouge Theory" will finally accept the "TRUTH" !! Stay Tuned and have a great day !! Mark. >>
If true it will make this more of a type than a variety. Many more collectors will add it to their sets.
TTT
<< <i>Could someone post what the article says.Thanks >>
Judging from the Coin World blurb and what I've heard elsewhere, there are two important ideas:
a) the gouges/leaves/markings were made pre-hardening of the dies.
b) Tool markings suggest that the gouges/leaves/markings are intentional
I've been skeptical of this variety, and will remain so until at least after I've read this article, so I really can't say anything more about it for a couple of weeks given how mail delivery is here. Point (b) is especially intriguing to me, since that is what I would have looked for to see if they were intentionally made or not. I do wonder why there were not noticed before, or how it can explain the "gouginess" of the markings.
Point (a) I must say I take some perverse pleasure in. It is quite believable as there are apparently no "gougless/leafless" coins from these dies. And what it would suggest is that all the theories that the "intentional gang" have posted here about mint lunch breaks, same press, same time of striking would be completely and utterly irrelevant. And it would seem to suggest that up to date the "intentional gang" really have not had good reasons to hold to their position. If it does turn out they were right, it was just by pure dumb luck.
Ed. S.
(EJS)
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."