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Tbar · January 28, 2007 10:57AM

At Dcam?

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Here are my pics now that I have the coin. Tried to get different lighting. Russ was spot on...I think I will send this back, would it even make cameo?

looks a little different then the sellers pics eh?........

holeinone1972 · January 28, 2007 10:59AM

No I do not think so. (any longer) LOL

Russ · January 28, 2007 11:00AM

No, it doesn't. It will not be nearly as strong in-hand. I've bought from this seller before.

Russ, NCNE

Tbar · January 28, 2007 11:03AM

<< No, it doesn't. It will not be nearly as strong in-hand. I've bought from this seller before.

Russ, NCNE >>

Russ · January 28, 2007 11:04AM

If you check his bidding history you'll get a better idea of what the coins he sells actually look like.

Russ, NCNE

GoldenEyeNumismatics · January 28, 2007 11:08AM

pretty much the heavy cameo appearance there is just a photography trick.

a dark piece of paper is held over the coin. This make the reflective fields look very dark and the cameo very strong, when in reality, it is not.

Tbar · January 28, 2007 11:08AM

Well I guess I can always return it. He only lives about 45min. away.

His picture sure looks frosty.........

Tbar · January 28, 2007 11:10AM

What are the odds the coin is still worth what I paid?

Russ · January 28, 2007 11:12AM

<< What are the odds the coin is still worth what I paid? >>

It will be cameo. So, it it grades PR66 or better you did okay.

Russ, NCNE

quattrocoins · January 28, 2007 11:29AM

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<< What are the odds the coin is still worth what I paid? >>

It will be cameo. So, it it grades PR66 or better you did okay.

Russ, NCNE >>

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Coin Would Grade Super High if Not for 2 Barely Discernable Hairlines on The Reverse. <<<

Don't think that it will make PR66 from that description.

Don, ZQZE

Cameonut · January 28, 2007 11:34AM

Those pics look amped up to me. Even with that, the reverse is only cameo to my eye.

At least you have a return privilege.

Examine the coin when you receive it and look at the contrast and for any hairlines. If it's not what you want, return it.

I also think that it is possible the coin came from here.

On raw cameo coins like this one, I have to wonder why they aren't already in a holder.

Russ · January 28, 2007 11:35AM

<< Coin Would Grade Super High if Not for 2 Barely Discernable Hairlines on The Reverse. <<<

Don't think that it will make PR66 from that description. >>

If that description is accurate, as in only two and "barely discernable", it would have no trouble grading PR66.

Russ, NCNE

Fletcher · January 28, 2007 11:36AM

Contrast has been significantly jacked up in that photo.

Tbar · January 28, 2007 11:37AM

Oh well.....

So I guess it sounds like a good chance I will be sending it back.

I guess I just don't know what to look for with that "photography trick"....I must admit, I don't normally shop for cameos.

123cents · January 28, 2007 11:41AM

The seller bought two 1958 proof sets recently in Capitol Plastic Holders. You probably are going to get the half out of one of those.

Tbar · January 31, 2007 8:37AM

BlindedByEgo · January 31, 2007 8:41AM

Wow - I didn't know that you could juice a pic so much as to get cameo out of thin air.

The things you learn on Ebay.

tmot99 · January 31, 2007 9:16AM

Ouch. That's just not right.

Tbar · January 31, 2007 9:39AM

I don't think I am being quite fair to the seller here are a couple pics that show the contrast better.

Let me know what ya think....

Russ · January 31, 2007 10:20AM

Looks like it's probably a cameo, barely.

Russ, NCNE

robec · January 31, 2007 10:27AM

By your last image, I'll have to say that it would make cameo....at least 66.

123cents · January 31, 2007 10:44AM

Tbar, A 1958 PCGS PR-66Cameo just sold for $69.00 on Heritage Auctions. Why not buy something like that instead of buying raw coins your not sure about the grade and designation?

Tbar · January 31, 2007 11:08AM

<< Tbar, A 1958 PCGS PR-66Cameo just sold for $69.00 on Heritage Auctions. Why not buy something like that instead of buying raw coins your not sure about the grade and designation? >>

Yes...well, that does seem to be the logical approach doesn't it? Being inexperienced, I didn't realize pictures could show such drastic contrast difference. My bad,... live and learn.....I am not affraid to return things.

I will say, after looking at alot of 66 and 67 on Heritage...this coin in hand looks like it could be 67. It has 3 or 4 small milk spots but other than that is very very clean. I see 67s on Heritage with as many or more spots. And I do not see any scratches at all on this coin. So...really I am not totally sure I am going to return it. I think I will sleep on it...and take another look at it tomorrow.

Thanks for all of your comments.

Russ · January 31, 2007 11:36AM

<< I see 67s on Heritage with as many or more spots. >>

You have to be careful making grading assessments by comparing to already grading coins. Many proofs develop spotting after they are holdered.

Russ, NCNE

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