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Bar Copper........help please
ibzman350
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In my day job I travel to surrounding court houses and do research, title examiner. All the deputies know me as the coin guy.
So yesterday a female deputy said she found a coin in her whatnot drawer and wanted to know what it is. She says she's owned it for 35 years has no clue when she got it and considered throwing it out a some time ago while spring cleaning.
I went to the courthouse with camera in hand and took a few pics, it's the best I could do with out my high tech copy stand.
All input is very much appreciated, grade value, real deal, fake....
High tech copy stand...
Herb
So yesterday a female deputy said she found a coin in her whatnot drawer and wanted to know what it is. She says she's owned it for 35 years has no clue when she got it and considered throwing it out a some time ago while spring cleaning.
I went to the courthouse with camera in hand and took a few pics, it's the best I could do with out my high tech copy stand.
All input is very much appreciated, grade value, real deal, fake....
High tech copy stand...
Herb
Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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Well it would have deceived me. That is why it is good to have a poster who has "Colonial" in his name.
Actually it looks like a struck copy (1862) as the "S" should be on top of the "A" - according to page 69. Still extremely cool!
Herb
supposed date is about 1785 the thirteen bars represent the 13 states and the USA interwoven signifies unity. Thought to have been issued around the same time as the Constellatio coppers by Thomas Wyon of Birmingham, England for America. It first circulated New York in November 1785, The design was supposedly copied from an old continental button.
The 1968 prices are
$135.00 for "good" condition
$200.00 for "Fine" condition
$400.00 for "Ex. Fine" condition
This is all of the info i have on it in my book...hope it helps
First, the 'Courthouse' coin:
An actual struck bar copy circa 1862 (courtesy of Stack's). Note how much more refined it appears:
A genuine piece circa 1785. Note the diagnostic small spur protruding downward from the right side of the 2nd bar from the top on the reverse, missing from the struck copy above, which is the the most reliable way to determine authenticity of these pieces. On many genuine pieces, such as the one below, it is hard to tell if the A passes over the S or vice verse, hence the reverse 'spur' is the key:
<< <i>Thanx for the quick replys.............I'll pass the word and burst her bubble, she thought she found a treasure.
Herb >>
It may still be a treasure.....I know a collector for that coin .......PM me and I'll give you his phone number.....
AL