gold Buffalo PR69 and PR70

rimshaker · January 23, 2007 8:51AM

2 out of 8 came back PR70, the rest are 69's.

I can't for the life of me visually see any differences.

Someone mentioned rim nicks on the buffalos as the usual cause. Is there a common location where these defects show up?? The holder itself prevents full visual clarity of the rim/edges.

MajorDuty · January 23, 2007 8:53AM

Just curious, did you send the coin in its Mint supplied capsule?

Coxe · January 23, 2007 8:54AM

<< 2 out of 8 came back PR70, the rest are 69's.

I can't for the life of me visually see any differences. >>

Precisely why the valuation margins are ultimately doomed. Crack and resubmit the 2 70s and maybe one will come back as a 70 too.

rimshaker · January 23, 2007 8:57AM

<< Just curious, did you send the coin in its Mint supplied capsule? >>

Yes i did. Called them up afterwards to see if they can return them as well... but no luck.

GAT · January 23, 2007 9:08AM

No one has ever been able to explain to me the difference between a MS69 and MS70, I believe it's witchcraft or spur of the moment.

MajorDuty · January 23, 2007 9:14AM

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<< Just curious, did you send the coin in its Mint supplied capsule? >>

Yes i did. Called them up afterwards to see if they can return them as well... but no luck. >>

Maybe they dented the rim prying that plastic apart. Just messin'

66RB · January 23, 2007 9:33AM

<< No one has ever been able to explain to me the difference between a MS69 and MS70, I believe it's witchcraft or spur of the moment. >>

Interesting, when I was a little tiny youngin' reading the RedBook and the Blackbook,
it seems I learned that MS or PR-70 was a theoretical grade.

Now, this was in the early 80's, I guess times have changed.

7Jaguars · January 23, 2007 10:03AM

You know there are a lot of people on these boards that claim they can absolutely tell. I say not, but that is not popular. Hmm, sounds like
"The Emperor's New Clothes"

And to think there are huge markups between MS 69 and 70 in things like American Silver Eagles, etc.

MacCrimmon · January 23, 2007 10:06AM

<< No one has ever been able to explain to me the difference between a MS69 and MS70, I believe it's witchcraft or spur of the moment. >>

It depends on whether the graders dined on bean burritos at lunch, or a nice leafy salad with vinagrette and fressh croutons......salads get you 69s.

7Jaguars · January 23, 2007 10:10AM

Uhh, is that when you order it for your girl? Oops, that is rude & hopefully not banable (sp?).

Rarity · January 23, 2007 10:32AM

I believe if a coin shows a 'tiny trace/dot/mark or imperfection' under 20-X magnification, it is a 69. Otherwise, it is a 70.
I would be glad to own a 69 for a lot less $$$.

gold Buffalo PR69 and PR70

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