Any chance of MS70 Silver Eagle

pagewright · January 15, 2007 4:34AM

This may be worn out topic, but somewhat new to me. Obviously there have not been any PCGS MS70 silver eagle for several years. Does anyone know the reason for this? Also, does any one think there may be a chance for some in the 2006W crop what with the special treatment of the coins?

Thanks

Bochiman · January 15, 2007 4:36AM

Welcome.
Stated many times in the past, if you do some searches.

PCGS, by company policy, has decided that, due to the milkspotting that can occur on these, there will be NO NEW PCGS MS70 SAEs until the milkspotting issue is resolved and PCGS is comfortable with their liability of the "guarantee".

pagewright · January 15, 2007 4:40AM

Thanks,
I actually did try a search but was unsuccessful. Thanks for the information.

bww

silvereagleproof · January 15, 2007 10:41AM

Yeah but they slab a lot of PR70 Silver Eagles and most of them spot. I know I have owned PCGS PR70 Spotted Silver Eagles.

Julio · January 15, 2007 10:49AM

ok; this is getting confusing.
I agree, they do have a tendency to spot.
Question is:
Does PCGS give the 70 to ASE's? TIA. jws

Tootawl · January 15, 2007 11:02AM

<< ok; this is getting confusing.
I agree, they do have a tendency to spot.
Question is:
Does PCGS give the 70 to ASE's? TIA. jws >>

Proof - Yes.
Uncirculated (mint state) - Not any more.

Julio · January 15, 2007 11:04AM

Thanks, TooTawl. jws

mrpaseo · January 15, 2007 11:08AM

So what you are saying is, PCGS does not give MS70 to the ASE?

Just to make sure I am clear...

Tootawl · January 15, 2007 11:14AM

Out of 278,329 SAEs graded by PCGS, 12 have been graded MS-70.
1986 - 3
1988 - 1
1995 - 2
1997 - 3
1998 - 4
Too many people have reported milk spots on all grades of SAEs. Sp PCGS decided to "Just Say No" to MS-70s.

RichieURich · January 15, 2007 12:38PM

to the Forums, Pagewright! Enjoy!

FloridaBill · January 15, 2007 1:36PM

Which is worth more?

PCGS MS69 SAE

or

NGC MS70 SAE

????????????????

FloridaBill

mach19 · January 15, 2007 2:01PM

<< Which is worth more?

PCGS MS69 SAE

or

NGC MS70 SAE

????????????????

FloridaBill >>

pf70collector · January 15, 2007 3:25PM

NGC MS 70 pre 90's can go as high as $10,000-$15000 like the 91 or 88.

Texast · January 16, 2007 3:25AM

>Too many people have reported milk spots on all grades of SAEs. Sp PCGS decided to "Just Say No" to MS-70s.

I would hope this wasn't true, if it is then why use PCGS if they already have there mind made up that there will be no MS70's

quattrocoins · January 16, 2007 3:42AM

I don't understand why PCGS won't do away with their ban on 70's for the "W" coins since the planchets for them are prepared in the same manner as are the planchets for proofs!

WinPitcher · January 16, 2007 3:43AM

Wouldn't the 69 then be the highest and thus the most expensive grade then?

or are too many of them graded 69 and the market meets demand?

Steve

LALASD4 · January 16, 2007 3:51AM

I think 70's should be banned across the board, nothing is perfect!

Newcomp103 · January 16, 2007 3:53AM

<< I think 70's should be banned across the board, nothing is perfect!

>>

Texast · January 16, 2007 4:04AM

I would like to hear from PCGS on this issue - I'm sure there lurking here somewhere, the question is will PCGS give an MS 70 grade on the 2006 W ASE?

Pentimento · January 16, 2007 4:06AM

<< I would like to hear from PCGS on this issue - I'm sure there lurking here somewhere, the question is will PCGS give an MS 70 grade on the 2006 W ASE? >>

Yeah, why is everyone avoiding the issue? Why aren't there any MS70's?

Jcarney · January 16, 2007 4:14AM

<< I think 70's should be banned across the board, nothing is perfect!

>>

That used to be NGC's policy. They abandoned it a few years ago.

quattrocoins · January 16, 2007 4:15AM

<< 

<< I would like to hear from PCGS on this issue - I'm sure there lurking here somewhere, the question is will PCGS give an MS 70 grade on the 2006 W ASE? >>

Yeah, why is everyone avoiding the issue? Why aren't there any MS70's?

>>

I think that train has already left the station, and PCGS missed it. It wouldn't be fair to change their policy for the 2006-W's now.
However, I think that they should rethink their policy before the 2007-W's come out.

If they did backtrack on the 2006-W's, Would it be fair to charge for resubmissions?

BigDaddyz · January 16, 2007 5:14AM

Since they don't "announce" that no MS69's are available, it seems unfair that they have charged us for the ones that were sent it. Also, if they decide to change in 2007, won't they have to say "ms69 not available on 2006-w"? Otherwise, we could get a presidential review and they'd have to pay the difference.

Company policy or not, if that is THE policy, it should be made public. Its not right to take a coin, that might be ms70, and grade it a 69 because "it might develop milk spots".

If its a 70, ITS A 70

53BKid · January 16, 2007 6:22AM

Here's to someone expressing some straitforward logic on this topic!

Konahead · January 16, 2007 7:36AM

<< ok; this is getting confusing.
I agree, they do have a tendency to spot.
Question is:
Does PCGS give the 70 to ASE's? TIA. jws >>

Proof yes, Unc no. You have to go to NGC to get MS 70 ASE.

quattrocoins · January 16, 2007 7:41AM

Anyone interested, vote here

Maybe we can get David's or Ron's attention

Texast · January 17, 2007 3:35AM

I appears they dont want to touch this question. Why doesn't that surprise me.

Any chance of MS70 Silver Eagle

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