Come see how the 1oz Platinums are selling this week...

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 1:49AM

Bill is the master

Pentimento · January 7, 2007 1:57AM

Every one of the "current bids" listed have been bid even higher since this was posted.

edit-- So much can change in 8 minutes! Thanks for the work and the updates!

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 2:02AM

<< Every one of the "current bids" listed have been bid even higher since this was posted.[/q

Yup...Kind of figured that would happen... Cant sit and look at every auction all the time.... or can I?....

Thanks

CC2GO · January 7, 2007 2:11AM

Great thread! So that's 24 $100 Plats total so far
not including those unaccounted for that were missed.

This helps keep track of the amount being sold as
opposed to those holding onto them.

24+ of 2500?

And will help show how many are raw
and how many are graded.

11 RAW SINGLES(out of 500)
13 Graded!

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 2:20AM

<< Great thread! So that's 24 $100 Plats total so far
not including those unaccounted for that were missed.

This helps keep track of the amount being sold as
opposed to those holding onto them.

24+ of 2500?

And will help show how many are raw
and how many are graded.

11 RAW
13 Graded! >>

I also decided to only track from 1 January on... I figure at this time, enough people already had the Plats and the initial rush might have died down a bit... I'll keep track of the auctions best I can, you can run teh numbers all you would like from that data.

Remember, it's only PCGS (Since we are here on PCGS) I did notice that the NGC were selling a few hundred dollars less. I also decided to not count the "First Strike" designation... though I probably should have... Again, teh links are there for all to see.

Goldbully · January 7, 2007 2:25AM

Wonder how many unsuspecting buyers will fall for this 2006 Plat $100??

Be Careful

BECOKA · January 7, 2007 2:26AM

Did I fall asleep? When did the UNC get the reverse of the proof? Now I think I know what all of the hoopla is about, should have bought some when I had a chance.

renman95 · January 7, 2007 2:28AM

mrpaseo, you should count the first strike in your tally as ridiculous as it seems. It's the coin we're tracking not the label.

Goldbully · January 7, 2007 2:31AM

<< Did I fall asleep? When did the UNC get the reverse of the proof? Now I think I know what all of the hoopla is about, should have bought some when I had a chance. >>

There is NO Reverse Proof Plat Unc.

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 2:36AM

Prices just updated for a snapshot of the current market on the selected items

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 2:53AM

<< Wonder how many unsuspecting buyers will fall for this 2006 Plat $100??

Be Careful >>

I know I fell for it, thankfully only tracking them and not buying them... I wouldn't say these people are being sneaky, we as buyers just need to read everything and make sure the item we bid on is the item we want.

Thanks for bringing this up,
Ray

renman95 · January 7, 2007 2:54AM

Don't BIN's give a false picture if they don't sell?

fishcooker · January 7, 2007 3:02AM

No, that's more valuable than others.

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 3:14AM

<< Don't BIN's give a false picture if they don't sell? >>

Thats why I am writting, "DID NOT SELL" I figured this would show a cap of what the coins are NOT selling for and what people WANT for them

Thanks for the question,
Ray

ziggy29 · January 7, 2007 3:17AM

<< Don't BIN's give a false picture if they don't sell? >>

Yes, but they can also give a false picture of "worth" if the seller sets the BIN at below the "going rate" (and probably sells very quickly). Results from a true auction are probably the best determiner of what these are truly worth on the open market. Looks like the going rate is about $2400 for all but the certified 70s.

notwilight · January 7, 2007 3:22AM

<< 

<< Wonder how many unsuspecting buyers will fall for this 2006 Plat $100??

Be Careful >>

I know I fell for it, thankfully only tracking them and not buying them... I wouldn't say these people are being sneaky, we as buyers just need to read everything and make sure the item we bid on is the item we want. Thanks for bringing this up, Ray >>

Indeed nobody's being sneaky. We can't expect seller of 2006 non-W coins to quit selling. The ease of confusion is even worse for gold. Search for 2006 Gold and you'll get about half W mintmarks. I generally spell out West Point in my auctions to make it clear.

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 3:29AM

<< mrpaseo, you should count the first strike in your tally as ridiculous as it seems. It's the coin we're tracking not the label. >>

FS added... Ironically there is only one not, and two UKNs at this time

Goldbully · January 7, 2007 10:18AM

This one just went off on eBay for the $100/1oz.

Pretty nice premium on this baby!!!

Link

GAT · January 7, 2007 10:34AM

Just wait until all the weak holders, AKA flippers, unload. You haven't seen anything yet as the collectors battle over the few coins that will be available. I still believe that few owners of the 4 coin sets will be willing to split up their sets.

jmski52 · January 7, 2007 11:01AM

<< Did I fall asleep? When did the UNC get the reverse of the proof? Now I think I know what all of the hoopla is about, should have bought some when I had a chance. >>

There is NO Reverse Proof Plat Unc.

The "W" Unc got the same reverse as the "W" Proof. It's a 3-year mini series of Legislative, Judicial, and Executive Branch issues. There is no Reverse Proof Platinum, yet.

There was some talk of a 2007 3-coin Reverse Proof Anniversary Set consisting of all 1/2 oz'ers - in Silver, Gold and Platinum. This is worth tracking if it materializes.

Goldbully · January 7, 2007 11:15AM

<< Just wait until all the weak holders, AKA flippers, unload. You haven't seen anything yet as the collectors battle over the few coins that will be available. I still believe that few owners of the 4 coin sets will be willing to split up their sets. >>

I will be holding my MS70FS $100 Statue of Liberty for a long time.

I can wait for the real reward....plus it's my only platinum coin, I would like to enjoy it for a few years.

And one more thing.................

jamakin · January 7, 2007 12:22PM

the lady liberty on the obverse of first few years of the platinum uncirculated series look alot like reverse proof coinage.
They stopped making them that way in '02

Goldbully · January 7, 2007 12:36PM

<< the lady liberty on the obverse of first few years of the platinum uncirculated series look alot like reverse proof coinage.
They stopped making them that way in '02 >>

Kinda still does......

Lady Liberty Today

mrpaseo · January 7, 2007 1:01PM

Added current POP Report

CC2GO · January 7, 2007 2:09PM

AWESOME!

Also......as of 8:46pm tonight (Sunday) I noticed that auction prices for
a PCGS MS69, Mint Sealed Box, and Open Box Raw $100 plats are all
running head to head almost dead even!

It will be interesting to see which one sells for more than the others.

$100 Mint Sealed Box $2120.00 - Ends Monday

$100 PCGS MS69 First Strike $2146.00 - Ends Monday

$100 RAW Open Box $2101.00 - Ends Thursday

Goldbully · January 7, 2007 2:21PM

Incredible Pop report:

_______________________________MS69_MS70___Total
21119 2006 $100 Statue of Liberty MS _879 __ 61____ 942
21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty MS _75 _ 133___ 208

Only 208 unc 2006_W pcs. graded so far.

Hopefully the expert Plat guys(mainly mrpaeso) on this forum will dicipher these low numbers so far.

Good Luck to all that got a piece of this one.

CC2GO · January 7, 2007 2:25PM

<< Only 208 unc 2006_W pcs. graded so far. >>

I predict a dramatic increase in the pop reports
this week on these!

FloridaBill · January 7, 2007 2:26PM

I've been running an excell spreadsheet tracking all ebay sales of all the plats, in all of their various permutations, since the first one sold on December 17 (am also doing the same with the fractional gold and 4 pc golds, and mint sealded Judas Boxes). As of this posting, there have been 29 1oz plats actually sold (excluding the 55 sold in 4 coin sets).

If anyone wants a copy of this spreadsheet, PM me your email address.

FloridaBill

ericj96 · January 7, 2007 3:09PM

mrpaseo,

Thanks for the effort. :-)

Eric

Moki · January 7, 2007 3:17PM

Given that PCGS is grading almost twice as many MS70s as MS69s (I don't know of any other series where this is the case), is there too much of a premium being paid for MS70s? Is it better to buy now at this premium or wait a few weeks to see if they come down? Or will interest in the series in general increase and thus command higher prices in a few weeks?

CC2GO · January 7, 2007 3:27PM

<< I've been running an excell spreadsheet tracking all ebay sales of all the plats >>

Awesome spreadsheet Bill! Very impressive
and comprehensive. This is an excellent tool
for watching market values and statistics on these.
Nice job! Thanks.

CC2GO · January 8, 2007 11:19AM

$100 Mint Sealed Box - JUST CLOSED AT $2285.01 Way to go Brian!

$100 PCGS MS69 First Strike $2146.00 - CLOSED!

First Strike sells for less than Raw Sealed!!?

Lionel · January 8, 2007 1:22PM

Well, its a little off topic, but just a bit.

Yesterday I watched Coin Vault over the Internet and they were selling the 1/10 oz legislative platinum uncirculated in MS69 for $1199.95. That's eleven hundred and ninety-nine dollars and ninety five cents.

That's the only legislative 2006 W uncirculate they had. Then they went on to the 2007 platinum bullion coins.

planetsteve · January 8, 2007 1:53PM

Observations on the spreadsheet (great job Bill!) --

The unopened boxes of ten sets of ASE 3-coin sets ("Judas Boxes"

) were consistently above $2500 until about Dec 20. Since then, only four out of about 140 boxes has equaled or exceeded $2500. The average for the last week looks to be about $2300, or about $50 or so higher than the average in the last week of December.

Sealed plat set average sales are about $170 higher than those of opened sets. On the other hand, after over a half-dozen sales of each, it appears that opened $100 coins are doing about $75 better than sealed $100 coins. (PCGS 70 coins add about 50%, though the 70 sets do about two-thirds or more better than opened and sealed sets.)

CC2GO · January 8, 2007 2:00PM

Interesting that a PCGS First Strike MS69 sold for less than a Raw Sealed $100!

mrpaseo · January 8, 2007 2:03PM

Holy smokes Bill, I don't know how you track so many auctions... I have an Excel worksheet too, I'm trying to get it on line so everyone can see it. It's much easier to manage in excel.

I'll drop a link when I get it up.

Ray

planetsteve · January 8, 2007 2:04PM

Looks like there's just one 69FS $100 on the spreadsheet so far. At $2250, it comes in about the same as raw and opened averages. (And somebody did drop $3000 on an opened $100, skewing that average upward.)

On the other hand, the majority of PCGS-graded $100 coins have received 70s!... so maybe a 69 is nothing special at all.

FloridaBill · January 8, 2007 2:11PM

I just cashed 200K of employer granted stock options to be able to hold the plats and fractional golds.

mrpaseo · January 8, 2007 2:17PM

<< I just cashed 200K of employer granted stock options to be able to hold the plats and fractional golds. >>

Holy crap....

_______________________________________________________________________________________

Everyone that has Excel, take this link and place it in your link above, download it or look at it from where it's at, but please don't change it on line (Not sure if you can do that...lol)

Tomorrow I'll figure out how those that do not have excel can look at it.

Night everyone,
Ray

http://webpages.charter.net/mrpaseo/1 oz Platinum coins.xls

CC2GO · January 8, 2007 2:24PM

<< <> >>

You've just been appointed "Official W-Uncirc Auction Tracker!"
Congratulations!

mrpaseo · January 8, 2007 7:58PM

<< 

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You've just been appointed "Official W-Uncirc Auction Tracker!"
Congratulations!

>>

I second the motion, and so it is law... Again, congratulations... and good luck

Boy would I lik eto see that pile of Platinum and Gold

PCGS must LOVE You.

Ray

airedale · January 8, 2007 8:40PM

What a horrible face on the obverse of the Platinum coin. This must rank near the top of the list of the most unattractive US coins ever minted.

fastrudy · January 8, 2007 10:13PM

PCGD FS MS69 sells for less than a raw, unopened box. This is not so unusual given the population reports. I would take my chances on the unsealed box scoring an MS70.

jmski52 · January 8, 2007 10:17PM

Mr. Paseo, thank you for your service to our country.

jmski52 · January 8, 2007 10:19PM

<< <> >>

Bill, you could do alot worse than holding this stuff!

mrpaseo · January 8, 2007 10:55PM

<< Mr. Paseo, thank you for your service to our country. >>

You are welcome mt friend, the pleasure to serve this great nation is all mine.

Ray

CC2GO · January 15, 2007 11:18AM

$100 1oz MINT SEALED BOX - SOLD $2950.00 - ENDED WITH BIN!!!

CC2GO · January 15, 2007 11:23AM

WOW! This is getting more impressive. The word must be spreading.
Way to go Brian!

clackamas · January 15, 2007 11:30AM

Thanks, I have 1 more sealed set left. I was going to keep them until i saw that one sell for $2800. With PCGS changing the rules on first strike so that as long as the ship date was before the 11th it was good to go for essentially ever on first strike, the sealed sets did not turn into pumpkins. With a 2:1 ration of MS70 vs 69, even at that price there is a good chance for a nice score.

COINB0Y · January 15, 2007 11:59PM

For the 1 oz., I got (1) MS70, (9) MS69 with the remaining (6) 1 oz. waiting for results.

AS of yesterday - 01-15-2007:

196/413 - about 47% of the 1oz. graded MS70 at PCGS
140/231 - about 60% of the 1oz. graded MS70 at NGC
--->OVERALL 336/644 or 52% of 25% OF THE TOTAL MINTAGE Graded at MS70.

Considering the Unc planchetts are the same planchetts used for the 2006 Proof's, I am beyond being fairly pissed-off

Florida Bill's Spread sheet reveals a significantly better return (20%) for a NGC MS70 over a PCGS MS69 FS.

I might just try a cheap experiment and crack 1/2 of them and send them Raw across the street, and then send the balance in PCGS slabs and see what NGC's graders think.

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FWIW, I got (10) individual 1 oz., and (6) 1 oz. in sets, however I mixed them up into two separate submittals. The other (18) Plat Fractionals won't be out for another 10 days, so that will be interesting to see what happens.

(hmmm...something just hit me, what if the Unc's planchetts were actually left over 2005 Proof planchetts?... but that's another thread)

COINB0Y · January 16, 2007 1:01AM

Just in:

For the (6) 1 oz., I got (1) MS70, (5) MS69

2/16 = 12.5%

Come see how the 1oz Platinums are selling this week...

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