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I like error coins, but this is overkill!
boston
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I looked at the pics and thought some aspects of the coin were legit, such as the partial rim on the reverse coin.
The clipped obverse seems to be about right as 1 of 2 of a mated pair without taking a close look and seeing a raised rim?
One of two planchets is one thing, but also having 2 planchets stuck one on top of the other was questionable.
It appears the coins were electrically welded together, judging from the post mint rim damage (vise grips?) and welding glob on the reverse!
Looks like someone ruined a couple error coins to make one unbelievable b a s t a r d error.
(Excuse the bad language, but it is accurate and shouldn't be offense in the context)
I'm curious to other's opinions of how it was made and what features are real mint errors. I think it is a good example of the extremes to which scammers will go.
Bob
Unbelieveable!
The clipped obverse seems to be about right as 1 of 2 of a mated pair without taking a close look and seeing a raised rim?
One of two planchets is one thing, but also having 2 planchets stuck one on top of the other was questionable.
It appears the coins were electrically welded together, judging from the post mint rim damage (vise grips?) and welding glob on the reverse!
Looks like someone ruined a couple error coins to make one unbelievable b a s t a r d error.
(Excuse the bad language, but it is accurate and shouldn't be offense in the context)
I'm curious to other's opinions of how it was made and what features are real mint errors. I think it is a good example of the extremes to which scammers will go.
Bob
Unbelieveable!
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San Diego, CA
The features that bother me are the tool marks on the rim and the apparent metal flow in the same area.
I'm probably under estimating the amount heat that can be produced during striking multiple planchets and
the possiblity the mint worker used some tool to remove it after becoming stuck in the collar or on the die?
It's better to be a skeptic when not knowing Jack.
Bob
I agree in general with LALASD4, I'd describe it as an obverse indent with brockage and a partial collar. It is without a doubt a genuine Mint product, and should fetch a pretty good price.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
but has rim damage from a counting machine.
There is a certain type of counting/rolling machine
that, when an error coin jams it, that will force
the coin against the side of the rolling parts,
leaving that "slanted thick reeding" on the edge.
As Sean says, a common occurance on mostly
cents, nickels, and quarters......
<< <i>Seanq is right again >>
With your permission, Fred, I'm going to print this thread out and show it to my wife.
Sean Reynolds
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The overall combination appears questionable. I was not implying the seller
was responsible for making or marketing a known forgery. An apology will follow to the seller
because I do see how my statement could imply deception on the seller's part.
Seanq gave a good explantion of the edge tooling and Mr. Weinburg clarified it very well for me.
I have to admit that I'm still questioning the metal flow and the discoloration on the left side. It's not an issue
of thinking everthing is fake, but taking as close a look at the pictures and questioning features that aren't familiar
and that raise serious questions of authenticity.
This post wouldn't have happened if I wasn't interested in the coin.
Bob