Crackouts from the other grading companies

circulated · December 24, 2006 7:18AM

From best to worst, in terms of grading accuracy, how would you rate the following companies - and in your experience which has the highest probability of getting into a PCGS or NGC slab at a reasonably lower (or same) grade (after crackout)? Which do you trust the most, and which should be avoided...

NTC
SEGS
PCI
NNC
ACG

Barry · December 24, 2006 7:24AM

Is that a rhetorical question?

Russ · December 24, 2006 7:25AM

<< <i>Which do you trust the most, and which should be avoided.. >>

Unless I can view the coin in hand, I trust none of the companies on your list, and unless I'm getting it cheap in an auction I avoid them all. In fact, I consider only one on that list to even be a real grading service.

Russ, NCNE

braddick · December 24, 2006 7:27AM

Depends on the type of coin.
For example, seated liberty quarters and early large cents? I'd trust SEGS over all the others.

For circulated Morgan dollars and circulated contemporary copper? I'd trust PCI over all the others.

jmj3esq · December 24, 2006 7:45AM

I have purchased 3 coins in PCI slabs. The first was a 1936 Texas Commem in a PCI MS65 slab. It upgraded to a PCGS MS66. Second was a Iowa Commem PCI MS65. It downgraded to a PCGS MS64. Lastly was a Bay Bridge Commem PCI MS63 that upgraded to a PCGS MS64. I have had good luck with PCI. Others have not had such good. All of the above coins were examined in hand before purchase. That is the only way I would buy a coin graded by these third worlders. I would not buy one on ebay. In hand grading is a must. There are some nice coins out there, though.

Edited to add: All these were crackouts, not crossovers. I would not waste money on a crossover from one of those slabs.

BlindedByEgo · December 24, 2006 8:02AM

I refuse to answer on legal grounds

MadMarty · December 24, 2006 8:08AM

Crackouts never grade at PCGS, otherwise they would have been in PCGS plastic already. Every koolaid drinker knows this!!!

MrEureka · December 24, 2006 8:17AM

I don't think I've ever cracked a coin from one of those holders. I don't even know what some of them look like.

19Lyds · December 24, 2006 8:29AM

I have zero experience and have just recently submitted a PCI Crackout! The grade will be ready shortly after the first of the year.

circulated · December 24, 2006 8:35AM

<<In fact, I consider only one on that list to even be a real grading service.>>

Which one would that be

ziggy29 · December 24, 2006 8:39AM

<< <i>Which one would that be >>

I consider SEGS to be a real grading service, not on par with the Big Four but better than the other "fronts" for scammers knowingly trying to get a 66 for a 62 coin and then quoting the PCGS price guide.

Larry Briggs knows his stuff, but he needs a supporting cast. I consider them "Second World" slabs.

OLD PCI (green label, ten-digit serial numbers) was very good, too, but most of those have probably already been identified and cracked out. New PCI is a joke, IMO.

Shamika · December 24, 2006 11:33AM

This is a great thread.

Burks · December 24, 2006 12:07PM

Out of the ones you listed? PCI probably.

I wouldn't trust any of those at all. NEVER buy a coin from those companies unless you can see it in hand and give it a close examination. Many problem coins end up in these holders because as Marty already said, they wouldn't grade at PCGS/NGC.

Crackouts from the other grading companies

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