Looks like our old pal dmplrainbow has graduated from juicing and editing images to just plain steal

Russ · December 21, 2006 4:38AM

eBay should have done something about this slimeball a long time ago.

If they had, those bidders wouldn't have been ripped off.

Russ, NCNE

braddick · December 21, 2006 4:41AM

Looks like Morris was lucky!

MrEureka · December 21, 2006 4:44AM

I hope he's OK.

Russ · December 21, 2006 4:56AM

<< I hope he's OK. >>

I hope he's in jail in a cell with a 300 lb homo named Bubba.

Russ, NCNE

Hugegut · December 21, 2006 5:02AM

Looks like something bad happened to this person on Dec 12. Check out his bidding activity.

Kimchee · December 21, 2006 5:06AM

He's making a change, to sell mostly pcgs & ngc graded coins. I spent $1,130.00 on his pre-legit coins.

Sean

notwilight · December 21, 2006 5:08AM

Could be a positive--maybe he's ill or worse.

kranky · December 21, 2006 5:13AM

<< Looks like Morris was lucky! >>

Morris was a seller to dmplrainbow. The negs are from dmplrainbow's buyers.

The auctions where the negs are showing up didn't go for big money.

zenny · December 21, 2006 5:17AM

<< 

<< Looks like Morris was lucky! >>

Morris was a seller to dmplrainbow. The negs are from dmplrainbow's buyers.

The auctions where the negs are showing up didn't go for big money. >>

actually there are a couple sellers in there too, one for 500 bucks who left him a neutral...

RichieURich · December 21, 2006 6:04AM

<< eBay should have done something about this slimeball a long time ago.

If they had, those bidders wouldn't have been ripped off.

Russ, NCNE >>

Maybe IMO if those eBay buyers had a link to those threads here about "dmplrainbow", they would be able to pursue an action against eBay for "aiding and abetting" "dmplrainbow". Now I'm not a lawyer, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express.

LeeG · December 21, 2006 7:41AM

He won my 1957-D Washington in PCGS 67 a few weeks ago. Took 14 day's to finally get paid. Said minor heart attack then sick? I got paid so left a positive with a little disclaimer. My feedback is on page 2.

MrEureka · December 21, 2006 7:43AM

Said minor heart attack then sick?

What, like that's an excuse? Hang him!

LeeG · December 21, 2006 7:48AM

Andy I haven't done business with him before so I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt because he did pay me. Thats just me, others can hang him if they want to. I did add him to my blocked list though.

GAT · December 21, 2006 7:51AM

All you need to know about this guy is to look at the difference between the junk he sells and what he buys. He finances his buying by his evil deeds.

BUBBAh · December 21, 2006 7:57AM

Below is copy of response he gave me when I wrote to him 2 weeks ago , telling him exactly what

i thought of his criminal acts :

CALL ME. I HAVE FORWARDED YOUR FILE TO EBAY. YOU SIR, ARE A COWARD. NOTICE, ALL COINS THAT DO NOT SELL ARE BEING LISTED FOR .99. COME SEE ME. EVERYBODY IN THIS AREA KNOWS WHERE I LIVE. I ALMOST DIED THURSDAY NIGHT AND MY WIFE IS VERY ILL. WHAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID IS SO CRUEL AND NOW UNTRUE. GOD HELP YOU. GARY

JapanJohn · December 21, 2006 9:42AM

"It's nuttin.....just a HAAAERT ATTACK......Da' Bears."

gamer1958 · December 23, 2006 7:36AM

<< eBay should have done something about this slimeball a long time ago. >>

Russ, what makes him a slimeball -- asking you with complete sincerity -- as I do not know Mr. dmplrainbow's past presence here or on eBay.

What I do know:

I was tracking a 58-D Franklin in late October. Coin was auctioned by an eBay powerseller and sold to another eBay dealer for about $46.
Two weeks later, said coin re-appeared as a dealer number 2 auction with a BIN of $699. I thought that was quite a mark-up, but the coin did not sell. A week or so later, dealer number 2 puts the coin out there with a starting bid of $9.99. Bidder dmplrainbow eventually won it with a high bid of approx. $480. I asked dmplrainbow what he thought was so fabulous about that coin.

His response:"That Franklin hasn't seen the light of day for 5 years".

He refused to elaborate further, then said that he and his wife were very sick. Perhaps that's why he's missing all his deliveries and racking up all the sudden negatives.

What's the real story? Does anyone know anything about this mysterious Franklin half? Inquiring minds wanna know...

Russ · December 23, 2006 7:41AM

<< Russ, what makes him a slimeball -- asking you with complete sincerity -- >>

He has a long history of blatantly editing images to deceive buyers. Besides the usual saturation crap, he would edit out blemishes and problems, and even ADD stuff to coins. Once, while adding stars to a gold coin, he added one too many in a completely wrong location.

Russ, NCNE

keets · December 23, 2006 7:59AM

Once, while adding stars to a gold coin, he added one too many in a completely wrong location.

coindeuce · December 23, 2006 8:00AM

<< 

<< Russ, what makes him a slimeball -- asking you with complete sincerity -- >>

He has a long history of blatantly editing images to deceive buyers. Besides the usual saturation crap, he would edit out blemishes and problems, and even ADD stuff to coins. Once, while adding stars to a gold coin, he added one too many in a completely wrong location.

Russ, NCNE >>

IMHO, the guy is everything that is wrong with eBay. Too lazy to make an honest living, so everything is cooked, doctored or just plain misrepresented. Ebay needs to douche this perp.

gamer1958 · December 23, 2006 8:19AM

<< I was tracking a 58-D Franklin in late October. Coin was auctioned by an eBay powerseller and sold to another eBay dealer for about $46.
Two weeks later, said coin re-appeared as a dealer number 2 auction with a BIN of $699. I thought that was quite a mark-up, but the coin did not sell. A week or so later, dealer number 2 puts the coin out there with a starting bid of $9.99. Bidder dmplrainbow eventually won it with a high bid of approx. $480. I asked dmplrainbow what he thought was so fabulous about that coin.

His response:"That Franklin hasn't seen the light of day for 5 years" >>

.

Here is the eBay item number -- 290053267473 -- of the coin in question:
LINK

Would you say that image is also juiced?

JimDepot · December 23, 2006 8:37AM

<< 

<< I was tracking a 58-D Franklin in late October. Coin was auctioned by an eBay powerseller and sold to another eBay dealer for about $46.
Two weeks later, said coin re-appeared as a dealer number 2 auction with a BIN of $699. I thought that was quite a mark-up, but the coin did not sell. A week or so later, dealer number 2 puts the coin out there with a starting bid of $9.99. Bidder dmplrainbow eventually won it with a high bid of approx. $480. I asked dmplrainbow what he thought was so fabulous about that coin.

His response:"That Franklin hasn't seen the light of day for 5 years" >>

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Here is the eBay item number -- 290053267473 -- of the coin in question:
LINK

Would you say that image is also juiced? >>

Funny that the auction ended over 3 weeks ago and no feedback from either party, I wonder if the transaction was completed.

coindeuce · December 23, 2006 8:38AM

<< 

<< I was tracking a 58-D Franklin in late October. Coin was auctioned by an eBay powerseller and sold to another eBay dealer for about $46.
Two weeks later, said coin re-appeared as a dealer number 2 auction with a BIN of $699. I thought that was quite a mark-up, but the coin did not sell. A week or so later, dealer number 2 puts the coin out there with a starting bid of $9.99. Bidder dmplrainbow eventually won it with a high bid of approx. $480. I asked dmplrainbow what he thought was so fabulous about that coin.

His response:"That Franklin hasn't seen the light of day for 5 years" >>

.

Here is the eBay item number -- 290053267473 -- of the coin in question:
LINK

Would you say that image is also juiced? >>

Juiced? No way, but I guarantee it's destined for a 3rd world holder with AT LEAST a two point upgrade

That's his M.O. from day one!!

TorinoCobra71 · December 23, 2006 10:27AM

FIFTEEN NEGS in the last ten days and he hasnt been fitted for a NARU jacket? Is it because he is a POWER SELLER?

TorinoCobra71

BUBBAh · December 23, 2006 10:32AM

<< 

<< 

<< I was tracking a 58-D Franklin in late October. Coin was auctioned by an eBay powerseller and sold to another eBay dealer for about $46.
Two weeks later, said coin re-appeared as a dealer number 2 auction with a BIN of $699. I thought that was quite a mark-up, but the coin did not sell. A week or so later, dealer number 2 puts the coin out there with a starting bid of $9.99. Bidder dmplrainbow eventually won it with a high bid of approx. $480. I asked dmplrainbow what he thought was so fabulous about that coin.

His response:"That Franklin hasn't seen the light of day for 5 years" >>

.

Here is the eBay item number -- 290053267473 -- of the coin in question:
LINK

Would you say that image is also juiced? >>

Juiced? No way, but I guarantee it's destined for a 3rd world holder with AT LEAST a two point upgrade

That's his M.O. from day one!! >>

Juiced ?? No way ??? WRONG ! iF you did a lil` research , and looked at the pix of when it origionaly sold on ebay from tfnc; you would see that it is one of the most juiced over saturated images ever to grace a computer screen

BUBBAh · December 23, 2006 10:33AM

etexmike · December 23, 2006 10:45AM

I bought one coin from him off of ebay a while back.

Kept the coin he sold me and then let it go at about half of what I paid for it. The coin in his auction pic looked like a dmpl Morgan that wouldn't even make a PL grade when I got it in hand. Juiced the photos big time. If the cert # hadn't matched I wouldn't have know it was the same coin.

I may be from the country but it only takes one time for me to learn my lesson.

He may be having health problems right now but that doesn't excuse the way he did business prior.

Avoid this seller.

-------------

etexmike

leothelyon · December 23, 2006 11:50AM

<< Below is copy of response he gave me when I wrote to him 2 weeks ago , telling him exactly what

i thought of his criminal acts :

CALL ME. I HAVE FORWARDED YOUR FILE TO EBAY. YOU SIR, ARE A COWARD. NOTICE, ALL COINS THAT DO NOT SELL ARE BEING LISTED FOR .99. COME SEE ME. EVERYBODY IN THIS AREA KNOWS WHERE I LIVE. I ALMOST DIED THURSDAY NIGHT AND MY WIFE IS VERY ILL. WHAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID IS SO CRUEL AND NOW UNTRUE. GOD HELP YOU. GARY >>

You'd think this guy would be sending out refunds and apologies left and right to save his soul...............from HELL!

BAWHAWAWHAHAWA!

Leo

coindeuce · December 23, 2006 1:44PM

<< 

<< 

<< 

<< I was tracking a 58-D Franklin in late October. Coin was auctioned by an eBay powerseller and sold to another eBay dealer for about $46.
Two weeks later, said coin re-appeared as a dealer number 2 auction with a BIN of $699. I thought that was quite a mark-up, but the coin did not sell. A week or so later, dealer number 2 puts the coin out there with a starting bid of $9.99. Bidder dmplrainbow eventually won it with a high bid of approx. $480. I asked dmplrainbow what he thought was so fabulous about that coin.

His response:"That Franklin hasn't seen the light of day for 5 years" >>

.

Here is the eBay item number -- 290053267473 -- of the coin in question:
LINK

Would you say that image is also juiced? >>

Juiced? No way, but I guarantee it's destined for a 3rd world holder with AT LEAST a two point upgrade

That's his M.O. from day one!! >>

Juiced ?? No way ??? WRONG ! iF you did a lil` research , and looked at the pix of when it origionaly sold on ebay from tfnc; you would see that it is one of the most juiced over saturated images ever to grace a computer screen >>

No Bubbah. Not wrong, just facetiously sarcastic. If YOU had read the entire thread, you would have noted that I labeled this joker early on. I've known about the turd for quite some time. Where have ya been?

BUBBAh · December 23, 2006 2:16PM

My apologies then Deuce !

roadrunner · December 23, 2006 2:25PM

I fell prey to the heart attack routine from a mail order dealer years ago. It cost me $1000 for that lesson (when that was about all the money I had). After months of recuperation and very few returned calls from his "secretary," he just disappeared entirely.

roadrunner

MAD4MORGANS · December 23, 2006 2:40PM

gamer1958 · December 23, 2006 10:37PM

<< No Bubbah. Not wrong, just facetiously sarcastic. If YOU had read the entire thread, you would have noted that I labeled this joker early on. I've known about the turd for quite some time. Where have ya been? >>

Now, Deuce, I think we're talking about more than one person that is manipulating images. And the pic that Bubbah was referring to was taken and posted not by dmplrainbow, but by chubberchub. For he was the seller in the now-ended Franklin auction in which dmplrainbow was the winning bidder.

Actually, I kinda liked ole chub. He was easy to deal with, he didn't mind a little negotiation on his prices, and I bought six Franklins off him this year.

However, the last three I purchased, the toning was disappointing compared to the pix he had in his eBay listing. I liked one 57-D with splashes of orange all over the reverse, but the coin, in hand, was merely an average mint-set toner.

Look guys, there's something more important at hand than a guy manipulating his images. The point is, there are very honest, hard-working dealers out there that know their stuff, hustle around buying mint sets, proof sets, cherry-picking the right coins, doing an honest grading assessment, investing in good equipment and honing their coin photographing skills. They don't fool with the images.

Its the good guys that lose because of this other stuff -- because the bottom line is, we collectors have to make a determination as to whether its worth it to buy coins over the Internet anymore. And if I am making that determination, maybe a lot of others are as well. Which means, as far as business goes, the good guys lose.

I'm sure this issue has been kicked around on this board before. Sorry if I sound like a grinch. But that's how I see it.

ibzman350 · December 23, 2006 11:14PM

So Bubbah this was your highest bid on a $400+ coin.

supercarcoins( 143) US $27.00 Nov-24-06 17:49:39 PST

Herb

ibzman350 · December 23, 2006 11:16PM

gamer1958

supercarcoins( 143) US $27.00 Nov-24-06 17:49:39 PST

Herb

gamer1958 · December 24, 2006 2:55AM

<< gamer1958

supercarcoins( 143) US $27.00 Nov-24-06 17:49:39 PST

Herb
>>

Not quite sure what ya mean here, z-man....can u enlighten me?
Thanks.
--gamer

gamer1958 · December 24, 2006 3:04AM

I believe this was the original sale of the coin -- if it was such a sure-fire winner, why'd TNFC let it go for $35? Also here, you can see TNFC's pix of the coin compared to chubberchub's.

LINK

dragon · December 24, 2006 3:15AM

The stories and excuses given by some of these Ebay scammers are hilarious sometimes. It seems they are on their death bed when it comes sending out the merchandise, but they always somehow seem to make it over to the bank to deposit your check or transfer over your paypal payments.

This dmplrainbow guys excuse about the heart attack and his wife being so sick is just pathetic IMO. If he's able to respond to emails, he should be able to refund peoples Paypal payments.

Russ · December 24, 2006 3:21AM

<< Also here, you can see TNFC's pix of the coin compared to chubberchub's. >>

Russ, NCNE

Russ · December 24, 2006 3:23AM

<< This dmplrainbow guys excuse about the heart attack and his wife being so sick is just pathetic IMO. If he's able to respond to emails, he should be able to refund peoples Paypal payments. >>

He's also been able to bid on, win, and pay for coins since he stopped shipping to his buyers.

Russ, NCNE

BUBBAh · December 25, 2006 12:55PM

<< So Bubbah this was your highest bid on a $400+ coin.

supercarcoins( 143) US $27.00 Nov-24-06 17:49:39 PST

Herb >>

danged right pardner ! Thats the high bid supercar made on the coin.

Me , Bubbah , watched the coin sell on ebay to Chubber for 35$ ..........then I see`s it for sale at "buy it now " for $900 or so from

this Chubber . Then it comes up in a "real" auction and I bid`s a token amount to get my feet wet ,,,,,,,, but frankly- i am stupified at the image of the coin .

looks now like a rainbow from another word it do !!

Well i know`s old chubby tweeks his pix more then just about anyone and I been watchin` this DMPLRAINBOW shichestier for some time.

so i kicks back and watches . A coin that anyone probably could have won for a bid of 50 bucks now becomes a bidding slaughterhouse;

seems just because it`s got a new picture .............

and this Chubber and DMPLrainbow dude`s seem to got some kind of scam runnin` - maybe one in the same person for all I know .

Anywho , this DMPL conman is bidding up other coins to freakishly high levels; sometimes with no one biddin` agin` him !!??

So the coin sells for some goulish price , I laugh to myself ., some people asks themselves why

And as far as i can tell .......old Chubber has dropped out and DMPL is on the lamb ....

and I continues my search for MONSTER Franklins !!

p.s................ oh yes , ..........Russ - `U `DA MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gamer1958 · December 26, 2006 1:14AM

Chubberchub operates in TX, I do not believe he and dmplrainbow are the same guys -- but, I could be wrong. Chub does tweak his images a tad though, I will say that. And note that the ever-sleuthful gamer was not a bidder on that coin...actually I just wanted to post to this so I could tie Bubbah at 81...

rlawsha · December 26, 2006 2:02AM

Now one from the Coin Guy Collection

gamer1958 · December 26, 2006 2:15AM

He's got some really weird messages in his recent listings; example:

CALL LOCAL SEMINOLE, FL AUTHORITES. OUR LIVES IN DANGER. DON'T KNOW WHO TO TRUST. WIFE WAS SCARED. TRUSTING IN JESUS.

jbsteven · December 26, 2006 3:04AM

This guy must be off his meds. Quotes from his current auctions:

<< AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, THE GOOD LORD WILLING AND THE CREEK DON'T RISE, AS THEY SAY AROUND HERE, WE ARE GOING TO BE COLLECTING ONLY PCGS, NGC. >>

<< On Dec-26-06 at 06:52:35 PST, seller added the following information: >>

<< I'M OK AFTER HEART ATTACK NOW. THANKS. EVERYBODY. GARY >>

oh boy

BUBBAh · December 26, 2006 7:51AM

..........one of his auctions was titled " wife scared -under F.B.I protection "

ibzman350 · December 26, 2006 10:31AM

<< 

<< So Bubbah this was your highest bid on a $400+ coin.

supercarcoins( 143) US $27.00 Nov-24-06 17:49:39 PST

Herb >>

danged right pardner ! Thats the high bid supercar made on the coin.

Me , Bubbah , watched the coin sell on ebay to Chubber for 35$ ..........then I see`s it for sale at "buy it now " for $900 or so from

this Chubber . Then it comes up in a "real" auction and I bid`s a token amount to get my feet wet ,,,,,,,, but frankly- i am stupified at the image of the coin .

looks now like a rainbow from another word it do !!

Well i know`s old chubby tweeks his pix more then just about anyone and I been watchin` this DMPLRAINBOW shichestier for some time.

so i kicks back and watches . A coin that anyone probably could have won for a bid of 50 bucks now becomes a bidding slaughterhouse;

seems just because it`s got a new picture .............

and this Chubber and DMPLrainbow dude`s seem to got some kind of scam runnin` - maybe one in the same person for all I know .

Anywho , this DMPL conman is bidding up other coins to freakishly high levels; sometimes with no one biddin` agin` him !!??

So the coin sells for some goulish price , I laugh to myself ., some people asks themselves why

And as far as i can tell .......old Chubber has dropped out and DMPL is on the lamb ....

and I continues my search for MONSTER Franklins !!

p.s................ oh yes , ..........Russ - `U `DA MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>

Bubbah you and gamer1958 and supercarcoins are one funny person

Herb

pharmer · December 26, 2006 10:54AM

Congrats, Herb

Ironic, isn't it, that coinguy and conder get bammed and stay that way, but not this guy(s).

Russ · December 26, 2006 11:03AM

<< Bubbah you and gamer1958 and supercarcoins are one funny person >>

Gamer1958 is not Supercarcoins/Bubbah.

Russ, NCNE

BigE · December 26, 2006 11:25AM

It seems this guy is seling nickles to buy dime bags and is too busy peeking out the windows to go to the post office-----BigE

BUBBAh · December 26, 2006 12:05PM

you feller`s are nut`s ..........

this was SUPERCAR

Looks like our old pal dmplrainbow has graduated from juicing and editing images to just plain steal

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