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How does NNC grading compare with PCGS grading?

moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
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I have never bought an NNC graded coin and I have a hard time estimating the grade of a coin from most pictures on ebay. Recently, I have been looking at some NNC Morgan and Peace dollars on ebay and wondered if anyone here has any experience with cracking out and sending NNC coins to PCGS or for crossover?

Thanks,
Charlie

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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Crack out a nicer NNC 66...and you MIGHT get a PCGS 63. I stress "might." That assumes it's not cleaned or whizzed or a slider.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I bought a few to check them out. The grading was as bad as NTC.

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  • mackdrivermackdriver Posts: 847
    If you look long and hard enough,u can cherry pic one now and then.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My experience has been that they typically overgrade by three points on Mint State silver dollars, and they often put coins in holders that get rejected by PCGS for cleaning or Altered Surfaces.

    Buying NNC coins is like playing with a hot stove: it won't take long at all until you get burned.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139 ✭
    I'll cherry a VAM from those holders (only did one so far) but will assume MS ones are AU at best. The one I got was a 21-D Morgan (VAM-1P) in 64. Looks 63 to me and wouldn't make sense, per valuation, to slab at all. Only got one of the abon SGS Morgans too. It hasn't arrived, but I priced as an AU with cleaning just in case. I find most third world holdered coins to be tagged generally a minimum of 2 grades high in MS compared to the top TPGs. It varies some both ways.
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  • gemstatecoinsgemstatecoins Posts: 1,065
    Don't buy NNC unless you are paying low end MS or au money.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Treat this coin like any other coin in a third world slab---treat it like it was raw.

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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    In general 2 to 4 points higher on MS coins than PCGS.

    ie NNC67= pcgs63 or 64. w an occasional 65.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There holders are just fancy 2X2's. You can put anything you want on it.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've heard many stories of counterfeits in third world slabs so you should worry about more than just the grade.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no personal experience with NNC.
    I have a little with ACG, and ICG... a little more with PCI and NGC along with ANACS.
    Now take the beginning initials. N,A,I,P,N, and A . and unscramble them.

    A P.A.I.N.N

    Some compare, some not.

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  • OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561 ✭
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    This is an NNC special purchased from Centsles for $42 when I didn't know any better.

    Judge for yourself...does it meet the grade that it was given?
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    3 to 4 grades.......iMO
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One cent... as to your coin and question:

    image I'd say AU55 and brown on a good day.
    This is the reverse of an MS65 Red.
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  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Crack out a nicer NNC 66...and you MIGHT get a PCGS 63. I stress "might." That assumes it's not cleaned or whizzed or a slider. >>

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  • moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
    You guys are scaring me! I was thinking about bidding on a NNC ms66.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I don't like them. There grading is usually at least 2 to 3 points off and many are cleaned or altered coins.
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