1806 NGC XF-40 Draped Bust Half & 1892-CC PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar -- 5 New Purchases at Houston
Stuart
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It was good seeing MHammerman, DizzleCC, and also meeting XPhobe during today's Pasadena Coin Club Show.
I am REAL pleased with the group of very interesting coins that I purchased there today from Bryan Fazio and Larry Cundari. I always enjoy visiting with them and looking through their superior quality high eye-appealing coins!
Today's purchases are the following 5 coins, 3 of which I have posted photos of in this thread for your viewing pleasure and also for your comments.
I am REAL pleased with the group of very interesting coins that I purchased there today from Bryan Fazio and Larry Cundari. I always enjoy visiting with them and looking through their superior quality high eye-appealing coins!
Today's purchases are the following 5 coins, 3 of which I have posted photos of in this thread for your viewing pleasure and also for your comments.
- 1892-CC PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar with very cool die cracks (that I swear is Prooflike -- PCGS is really tough these days!!!)
- 1806 NGC XF-40 Draped Bust Half Dollar with Original Mint Luster peeking through Brown Toning (Looks XF-45 to AU-50 to me)
- 1892 Columbian Exhibition NGC MS-64 Prooflike Commemorative Half (That Really does look like a PROOF!!
) - 1896 PCGS MS-65 PL Morgan Dollar (Deep watery Gem Mirrors!!)
- 1925 Lexington Commemorative Half with Gorgeous 2-sided light brown toning
Stuart
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I believe that the grading service attributed wear to what I consider to be a weak strike from a late die state obverse die.
I would appreciate if some Bust Half experts would please provide us with some of your insight and let me know what you think of her.
1806 NGC XF-40 Draped Bust Half Dollar (Overton 121)
Stuart
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the 1806 is a beaut
I would agree that it should get atleast a 5 point bump.
The coin faces up in hand a bit better looking than this photo, which is a rather harsh lighting angle that seems to accentuate the scattered light contact marks on the obverse, especially under Miss Liberty's jaw -- which is a light scuff mark.
Stuart
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Stuart
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<< <i>1892-CC PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar -- Looks Cameo PL to Me!!
Stuart: The 92-CC sure does look PL with frosted devices from looking at your pictures. This must be one of those borderline semi-prooflike coins that PCGS use to call Prooflike. The die cracks show that the Carson City Mint still put a shine on those dies after they were well used up. Another nice pick
I will do some research on the 1806 NGC XF-40 Draped Bust Half, when I get some extra time within the next couple of weeks. I believe it to be a late die state obverse, and will be interested in accurately attributing it.
The 1892-CC PCGS MS-63 Morgan Dollar appears clearly PL to me, with nice frosted devices cameo contrast, but PCGS has gotten extremely conservative with their PL & DMPL designations lately. It looks more reflective than other 1892-CC PL's that I have seen.
The 1892 NGC MS-64 Prooflike Columbian Half is not only deeply Prooflike, but it has more of a proof appearance. I am surprised that NGC did not at least attribute it with their DPL designation -- unless they do not perhaps use that for commemoratives, as I know they do for Morgan Dollars. The original owner tried twice to get this coin certified as a proof, and also had an NGC Presidential Review about it.
In this collector's humble (and very subjective
Stuart
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Your 1806 half appears to be an O.121, the sixth and final use of 1806 obverse 10. This obverse was first used on O.118, which suffered from a failed reverse die, then the rare O.126, which was likely retired because the obverse die may have fallen out and left a series of raised segments similar 1809 rev. F, used on 09 107 and 108. After 126 was coin, the obverse die was paired with rev. O to coin O.119, which also developed a number of cracks and chips, and was retired. Next came O.122, another rare die pairing, and again, the reverse die failed quickly and catastrophically. Next it was paired with reverse P to strike O.120, which is famous for the die chips which developed in the shield. Finally, this workhorse die was paired with rev. M to coin your 121, but it had done its duty and quickly succumbed to advancing cracks which had started to form during the first use, O.118.
I have a picture of the reverse segments that appeared on O.126. These may be unique to the Reiver coin, which I briefly owned. However, the image is about 600kb, too large to post here. If anyone would like to see it, PM me and I'll email it.
That said- I like the coin Stuart, but only for flat 40 money and all this is based on pics that might be hiding a lot of pluses or minuses that I can't see. A slightly tilted pic of the obverse will show (like coinkat spoke to earlier) if the area between the forehead and the ear are wear or striking issues.
Bottom line Stuart- you are a collector and as long as the coin passed your smell test than that's all that counts. I would trust your opinion that the coin is worth what you paid.
On another note---if that 06 were to see a little fresh air outside that plastic tomb, it might take on a more original looking patina in a few years........just a thought
You can still make out that it's a C-6. There is a curved ding below the date that I thought might have been a clip, but it is not quite as curved on the reverse, so no cigar...
I wouldn't be so concerned with grade on these, and would be more concerned about surfaces. Just the way I look at these coins is all.
I would also be more concerned with remaining luster as well.
Stuart
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I am just curious? Just how many coins do you have!
PBFloyd: Thanks for your earlier post on this thread. In reply to your above quoted question. Without directly answering, I have enough coins to be offering the following duplicates for sale on the BS&T Forum via the link in my signature line below!!
Stuart
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1925 NGC MS-64 Lexington Commemorative Half Dollar
Stuart
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Any follow up pics on the 1806 DBH ?
Stuart, you have a great eye for quality. Nice job.
Dennis
SlumLord98: Thanks very much for your most helpful, informative and quite interesting Overton attribution of the tired and cracked old dies that were used to coin my new 1806 (O-121) Draped Bust Half.
JRocco: Here is a slightly less washed-out looking version (Top) of the photos previously posted (Bottom) on this thread for your reference.
Stuart
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Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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