CSI and GEC graded coins, another SGS-type grading operation?

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• DennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 20, 2006 6:31AM

  The answer here is obvious.

  When in doubt, don't.

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• Wingsrule Posts: 3,054 ✭✭✭✭

  November 20, 2006 6:47AM

  Hmmm, a PROOF MS coin.
  
  Gives me all sorts of confidence in this grading company.

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• Burks Posts: 1,103 ✭

  November 20, 2006 7:07AM

  
  
  << <i>The answer here is obvious. >>
  
  
  
  It's Cracker Jack isn't it? WOO-HOO I WIN!!!!!!!!
  
  CSI should be good. Maybe the graders are the actors from the TV show.

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• RichieURich Posts: 8,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 20, 2006 11:27AM

  Shouldn't CSI be grading the so-called death coins?

  An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

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• Tatter0035 Posts: 1

  June 24, 2007 6:56AM

  Text Hi everyone im new here on this forum, but i have been collecting coins since 1963, which has been a total of 44 yrs so far. why don't the 3 following gradeing companies NGC, PCGS and the ANA step in & put a halt to these off the wall graders by making it mandatory to take classes from the ANA to be certified graders, which adhere to the top standards of gradeing, and set up their on corporation in which they have to take the classes & be a member of the ANA to qualify as being certified graders which are licened & bonded to use the ANA seal & ANA Membership Numbers on there web sites which will include EBAY, Yahoo, Overstock ect.

  DavId Cooksey

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• Kimchee Posts: 301

  June 24, 2007 7:05AM

  to the forum!
  
  This is an old thread but good question I think the more relavent question should be why doesn't EBAY stop the blatant self-slab scammers? But the answer to that is easy: Because those sellers make ebay more money.
  
  Edit- Hi Tatter. If you get no replies from this thread, just start a new thread and cut and paste your post. Plus you'll lots of hello's ane welcomes
  
  Sean

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• Writersblock Posts: 1,196 ✭

  June 28, 2007 6:40AM

  
  
  << <i> why don't the 3 following gradeing companies NGC, PCGS and the ANA step in & put a halt to these off the wall graders by making it mandatory to take classes from the ANA to be certified graders, >>
  
  
  Simple answer, because they have no regulatory or enforcement powers. They have no legal right to tell me I can't start up a grading service or to make me take any of their classes. About the most they can do is not let me adverise in the Numismatist, and PCGS or NGC won't accept my slabs for crossover, which they won't do anyway. And what if I take their class and pass it, them go ahead and slab overgraded coins anyway (and since I passed the ANA class I can now put that on my overgraded slabs to give the sucker extra confidence in them.) Think Centles and I believe NNC. He can pass the course.

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• drwstr123 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭✭✭

  June 28, 2007 6:50AM

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• basestealer Posts: 1,579 ✭

  June 28, 2007 7:26AM

  CSI, or Certified Silver Investments, also (I think) operates on eBay as sullyscoins, and they also own the domain csigrading.com (check out the obituary they wrote for the top TPGs), and the domain certifiedsilver.com. I'm not going to state facts about any of these companies as I wouldn't want to slip up and get something wrong, but in my opinion CSI is a scam, it appears to originally been a company targeting older people and investors nearing retirement age to purchase horribly overgraded coins at inflated prices with the hopes of hitting a jackpot in a few years. In my opinion it would take many decades (perhaps a century) for those coins originally purchased as "investments" to ever appreciate to their original purchase price. It also appears that the company has taken a new turn and instead of advertising their slabbed coins as investment opportunities for retirement plans, they are just another third party grader offering up "certified" coins.
  
  Most of American has heard of rare coins. Most of America has heard about precious metals. Most of America has heard of third party grading and certification services. Combine these buzzwords and offer them up to most of America that doesn't know much beyond the words themselves, and you have a nice pool of chumps from which to fleece the golden goose.
  
  If the slab comes from any of these companies, in my opinion it is a scam:
  ACC (American Certified Coins)
  ACG (Accugrade)
  AMG (American Grading Services)
  ANI (American Numismatic Institute)
  CCG (Colonial Coin Graders)
  CCGS (Certified Coin Grading Service)
  CGGA
  CSI (Certified Silver Investments)
  GEC Grading
  GGC (Gallery Grading Company).
  INB (International Numismatics Bureau)
  INC (Independant Numismatic Certification)
  NGCC (Numismatic Grading Certified Company)
  NGS (Numismatic Grading Service)
  NGS (National Grading Service)
  NNC (National Numismatic Certification)
  NTC (NumisTrust Corporation)
  SGS (Star Grading Service)
  SNGA
  WCG (World Coin Grading)
  WCGS (World Coin Grading Service)
  

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