Mint may have interesting problem in 2017

ScarsdaleCoin · November 20, 2006 2:01AM

With the new president coins....

The law specifies no living former president can appear on a coin!

I would think that Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will still be alive when it comes time for their dollars in 2017?

What do you think the Mint will do?

Bear · November 20, 2006 2:02AM

Well obviously, the Mint will have to kill them.

richardshipp · November 20, 2006 2:04AM

If Bill keeps fooling around, Hillary might make sure Bill doesn't make it till then.

WoodenJefferson · November 20, 2006 2:16AM

MarineEAS1999 · November 20, 2006 2:18AM

What about all the subsequent presidents elected from 2008 till 2017...

will they extend the minting of the series if one of them dies in 2017 and there after?

messydesk · November 20, 2006 2:21AM

<< With the new president coins....

The law specifies no living former president can appear on a coin!

I would think that Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will still be alive when it comes time for their dollars in 2017?

What do you think the Mint will do?

>>

Circulating dollars commemorating the administrations of past head security guards at the Capitol Visitors Center.

TheRaven · November 20, 2006 2:22AM

There is not really a problem, the law is clearly written.....

People might find it odd, but there is not really a problem there.....

Barndog · November 20, 2006 2:39AM

the death of former Presidents will always have a silver lining for collectors? Is that what we're headed toward?

Breaking AP News, 15 October 2024: The United States mourns the loss of former President William Jefferson Clinton (19 Aug 1946 - 15 Oct 2024). Clinton, former Governor of Arkansas, former husband of former President Hillary Rodham, leaves behind a wife (Monica) and a daughter (Chelsea). A national day of mourning has been declared for 16 October. Despite the sadness felt by many, coin collectors were rejoicing in the streets now that they can finally buy a Bill Clinton coin for that empty slot in the Presidential Dollar Coin Series started by the US Mint more than a decade ago.

Conder101 · November 20, 2006 2:48AM

<< What do you think the Mint will do? >>

The series will stop.

<< What about all the subsequent presidents elected from 2008 till 2017...

will they extend the minting of the series if one of them dies in 2017 and there after? >>

Personally I think they should. Just leave the series open and issue another coin whenever another President becomes elligible. I see this series as honoring the Office of the Presidency, not "honoring the presidents from 1789 to 2017 who happen to have been dead for at least two years"

Longacre · November 20, 2006 2:53AM

After Hillary runs and wins in 2008 and 2012, Willy will run again and win in 2016 and 2020. And the cycle will repeat itself. Eventually they will both be eligible to be on the coins (eventually).

saintguru · November 20, 2006 2:54AM

I'm sick of dead presidents.

Time for the "Porn Stars In Their Prime" series.

renman95 · November 20, 2006 3:15AM

They will fill the void with Vice Presidents and Speakers of the House until the next "elligible" Prez.

Is Vincente Fox elligible? He did campaign in the Southwest and has a huge constituency there.

Gemineye · November 20, 2006 3:55AM

I have a solution...For the collector sake we could banish all living presidents to some remote island...so we can have our collection complete.....

RichieURich · November 20, 2006 4:01AM

<< If Bill keeps fooling around, Hillary might make sure Bill doesn't make it till then. >>

I know what the law states, I don't understand why it's a big deal. When 2017 arrives, even if Former Presidents Clinton and Bush are still alive, why not mint their coins? What's the problem? It's been done 5 times before with living people on U. S. coins, so why not do it again? Although that's not what the legislation allows. Probably we will run into the same issue on the First Ladies coins, but since almost no one will be collecting those coins, no one will care.

aficionado · November 20, 2006 4:06AM

<< With the new president coins....

The law specifies no living former president can appear on a coin!

I would think that Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will still be alive when it comes time for their dollars in 2017?

What do you think the Mint will do?

>>

Everyone is praying Bush "W" gets a coin.

Outhaul · November 20, 2006 4:10AM

<< Well obviously, the Mint will have to kill them. >>

They've done worse...look at the packaging of the 20th Anniversary ASE sets.

dlimb2 · November 20, 2006 4:10AM

There are a couple who won't be around in 2017...they may be in ok shape now...but when you get past 80 things happen real quick.

WoodenJefferson · November 20, 2006 4:22AM

<< There are a couple who won't be around in 2017...they may be in ok shape now...but when you get past 80 things happen real quick. >>

Gerald R. Ford
Born: July 14, 1913 in Omaha, Nebraska

that be 93!

RichieURich · November 20, 2006 4:24AM

<< 

<< There are a couple who won't be around in 2017...they may be in ok shape now...but when you get past 80 things happen real quick. >>

Gerald R. Ford
Born: July 14, 1913 in Omaha, Nebraska

that be 93! >>

Former President Ford is the oldest Former President in U. S. history, having recently passed Former President Reagan in this category.

PerryHall · November 20, 2006 4:31AM

<< 
Everyone is praying Bush "W" gets a coin. >>

What a stupid remark. It's not funny and it's not clever.

Conder101 · November 20, 2006 5:29AM

<< Willy will run again and win in 2016 and 2020 >>

Willy can't run again, he is no longer eligible. (Unless they amend the Constitution) The maximum anyone can serve now as president is just under 10 years. (If a president succeeds a previous presidents unfinished term of office, he can still be elected to two four year terms of his own as long as he did not serve for more than two years of the previous presidents term. If he serves more than two years he can only be elected to one four year term. Ford served just a little less than two years of Nixons last term, so if he had not been beaten by Carter he could have served two more terms. and been the second longest serving president.)

ziggy29 · November 20, 2006 5:34AM

<< Willy can't run again, he is no longer eligible. (Unless they amend the Constitution) >>

It's not really clear, though, whether or not the he could run as a VP on a winning ticket and ascend to the presidency again if the president-elect resigns. The 22nd Amendment seems to refer to being *elected* president, not merely *serving* as president.

Not that I'd want to see the Constitutional crisis it could create, but it would be very interesting to see how the courts would handle this if it occurred. I'd think a strict interpretation would allow this to happen, but someone fishing for "original intent" might rule it unconstitutional as a blatant "end run" around the intent.

Longacre · November 20, 2006 5:44AM

<< 

<< Willy can't run again, he is no longer eligible. (Unless they amend the Constitution) >>

It's not really clear, though, whether or not the he could run as a VP on a winning ticket and ascend to the presidency again if the president-elect resigns. The 22nd Amendment seems to refer to being *elected* president, not merely *serving* as president.

Not that I'd want to see the Constitutional crisis it could create, but it would be very interesting to see how the courts would handle this if it occurred. I'd think a strict interpretation would allow this to happen, but someone fishing for "original intent" might rule it unconstitutional as a blatant "end run" around the intent. >>

Constitutional law was my worst subject in law school. I still don't understand that protected class stuff, strict scrutiny, heightened scrutiny, etc., etc.

Conder101 · November 20, 2006 5:45AM

I don't see anything that would prevent him from running as VP. And as for ascending to the presidentcy again if something happened to the sitting president I don't see anything against that either. The law says that the VP ascends to the office, and it says that after he serves for two years he can't be elected to more than two full terms, it doesn't say that he can't serve more if he gets into the Presidency by a non-elected fashion. Now once that term that he ascended to ended he could not run for reelection as Prsident.

sliderider · November 20, 2006 5:56AM

They should spread them out enough so that no living president will ever appear. Making them only in years ending in a 5 or a 0 should do it.

BigDaddyz · November 20, 2006 5:59AM

It would be kind of interesting to have Bill and Hillary both appear on silver dollars AND on gold spouse coins

19Lyds · November 20, 2006 6:07AM

<< whenever another President becomes elligible. >>

coinnut86 · November 20, 2006 2:19PM

<< Well obviously, the Mint will have to kill them. >>

Naturally

Coxe · November 20, 2006 2:56PM

<< Well obviously, the Mint will have to kill them. >>

Bear, we think alike to a frightening degree on this one.

They will also have to kill their quota each year thereafter, putting us at the polls way more than usual and making us choose from a pool of suicidal nutcases.

Mint may have interesting problem in 2017

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