When a Body bag coin comes back??

patrick47 · November 17, 2006 4:04PM

Do they still charge full price is a coin comes back in a body bag???? Im looking to send off about 10... first go around

Bochiman · November 17, 2006 4:06PM

Yep.
They had to take the time to open the package, put them into the system, attempt to grade them, and box them back up for you.

Barry · November 17, 2006 8:20PM

patrick - if you're new at this, you may want to have a dealer or experienced collector look at the coins first, rather than setting yourself up for a big disappointment. Are you able to post some pics here?

orie · November 17, 2006 8:52PM

If I were you, I'd send 'em in. There is no better way for me to learn then putting up the bucks. I've been on here long enough to figure out that board members as a group are not that good at grading. High on theirs. brutal on yours.

MisterBungle · November 17, 2006 9:33PM

orie wrote, in part:

> "...board members as a group are not that good at grading. High on theirs. brutal on yours."
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Patrick47 wasn't asking about grades, but about
body bags. I think the people here could help him
out with that if there were good pictures.

Photos will often show problems which would cause
a body bag situation, and may save him a few $$.

Or maybe not, but we would get to see a few coins,
and that's always cool!!

~

bhartman35 · November 17, 2006 10:35PM

SHOW THE COINS!!! SHOW THE COINS!!!

RedTiger · November 18, 2006 12:35AM

If a person can make it to a decent size show, bring the coins. There will probably be some veteran collectors and/or dealers willing to have a quick look. Morgan experts are everywhere. That one step can save a lot of submission fees and heartache. So many new collectors send in their coins with high hopes and take a financial and emotional hit. Unless the submission fees are a trivial amount of money, the average collector is better off getting a more veteran person look at them first. No need to reinvent the wheel, especially with Morgans.

There is no substitute for looking at coins in hand. However, good pictures can be useful. That said, taking good coin pictures can be as difficult and long a process as learning how to grade coins.

notwilight · November 18, 2006 12:44AM

Yep, posting a good photograph will get you some good advice. it will also get you some bad advice but you'll be able to tell which is which if you can read people. good luck, Jerry

WoodenJefferson · November 18, 2006 1:01AM

<< <i>If I were you, I'd send 'em in. There is no better way for me to learn then putting up the bucks. I've been on here long enough to figure out that board members as a group are not that good at grading. High on theirs. brutal on yours. >>

Rodius · November 18, 2006 1:19AM

I agree with the forum, Show the pictures and them give advise, or have the coins go off the an authorized dealer before they are sent off. It happened to me, PCGS body bagged about 10% of the coins I sent in, I learned the hard way. Like the proverb goes, "but the book first".

The folks on the forum will help you so much. Keep them in your network, great advise here.

NumisOxide · November 18, 2006 1:30AM

If you can post pics of the coin, we can give you some opinions on the grades of your coins. It will most likely save you some $$$$.

patrick47 · November 18, 2006 6:27AM

well i was going to send in about 15 so thats a lot to post,,, ive got several 1892-s in great shape but i wonder if thay have been cleaned.. a little bright>>>> and some 1884-s.. same,, the rest ate just cracked proofs from the late 60s and early 70s.....

and i posted one coin on her yesterday a 1900 that may have been double striked.. i dont know but the silver is coming off and it has a inset rim and a gold collor coming through

Mustang5L5 · November 18, 2006 8:04AM

I'm new to this hobby so i don't quite understand the term "body bag" I gather it's a coin that has been damaged or cleaned or basically rejected somehow.

I've never had a coin worth sending in so i never paid attention to this as most of my collection is just common dates, nothing special.

I *may* have a raw coin i am getting from a relative that would be worthy of sending in, so i want to try to find out how it all works

bhartman35 · November 18, 2006 8:32AM

<< <i>I'm new to this hobby so i don't quite understand the term "body bag" I gather it's a coin that has been damaged or cleaned or basically rejected somehow.

I've never had a coin worth sending in so i never paid attention to this as most of my collection is just common dates, nothing special.

I *may* have a raw coin i am getting from a relative that would be worthy of sending in, so i want to try to find out how it all works >>

A "body bag" refers to the mylar flip that PCGS (and I assume other grading services, as well) return your coin in if it has been rejected for some reason. Some common reasons for a coin being rejected (aka, "body-bagged") are artificial toning (referred to on the board as AT), being counterfeit, having a deep scratch or similar damage, or being cleaned.

Personally, I would recommend that anyone new to the hobby take advantage of all the knowledge on the board, and post their pics before sending their coins in. It's a cost-effective way to screen out those coins not appropriate for being submitted. As has been mentioned elsewhere, the grading services don't give refunds for coins they don't grade, so you're better off finding out beforehand if your coin's not gradeable.

roadrunner · November 18, 2006 9:00AM

A "little bright" on a circ Morgan warrants reflection.

If I were you, I'd send 'em in. There is no better way for me to learn then putting up the bucks. I've been on here long enough to figure out that board members as a group are not that good at grading. High on theirs. brutal on yours.

Couldn't disagree more. Get some opinions and save yourself some money. Forum members are quite attuned to ferreting out
cleaned coins. It's not that difficult from a scan or photo. Now if you have high grade PF coins that's a diff ball game. Trying to spot hairlines from photos is far more difficult and many are missed.

roadrunner

RedTiger · November 18, 2006 9:46AM

<< <i>well i was going to send in about 15 so thats a lot to post,,, ive got several 1892-s in great shape but i wonder if thay have been cleaned.. a little bright>>>> and some 1884-s.. same,, the rest ate just cracked proofs from the late 60s and early 70s.....

and i posted one coin on her yesterday a 1900 that may have been double striked.. i dont know but the silver is coming off and it has a inset rim and a gold collor coming through >>

Start with two or three pics and see what folks say. Obverse only if that will save you time. Again, it depends on how good your pics are, if this will be of any value. If you've been collecting since the 1960s, you may be fine, or you may be in for some suprises, possibly good or bad. If the $30 per coin grading fee plus postage is nothing to you, go ahead and send them in. A few minutes posting or getting more opinions may save you some of that. Again, photos are not always conclusive, however, in cases of obvious cleaning and decent photos, they often are.

When a Body bag coin comes back??

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