Boy, This Felt Pretty Good. - I'm Not Saying Anyone Else Should Do This But....
poorguy
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I've heard it said before here that if only people would stop doing business with known coin doctors and eBay scammers, it would help to clean up the industry. I've chosen to not do business with this guy because I do not agree with his business practices regarding the obviously photoshopped images he uses of coins in most of the listings I've seen of his. I never said he "scammed" anybody but his less than ethical way of displaying coins he has for sale that appear to have been airbrushed and doctored in photoshop makes me believe that he might have something in mind for this coin that is not in-line with my opinion of ethical. If anybody wants the coin dmplrainbow wanted, it's now only $100. PCGS MS65 1880-S (80/79 overdate).
Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
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Good job!
That's the way to do it!
-Amanda
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<< <i>If anybody wants the coin dmplrainbow wanted, it's now only $100. PCGS MS65 1880-S (80/79 overdate). >>
SOLD!!! Send me an invoice.
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nice to see someone taking a stand.
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Oh well, then I'll just have to go through all of his alts. Oh, and I'm sure eBay would love to match up some alts that have bid on his items. I know his addresses, match them up, cancel the sale, and report it to eBay. I don't think he would want to risk two of his ID's he has worked so hard to get feedback with.
<< <i>What does he do with his coin pictures? >>
Photoshop, probably -- enhancing the color to make toners look more wild than they are. A fair number of eBay sellers do that regularly.
I think it significant that a dealer of your stature, making this choice, actually makes a splash in the numismatic waters. It should go without saying that any reputable dealer would abjure any business relationship with such a seller. It is news that you are doing so, which speaks poorly (no pun intended) for the industry as a whole. It's good karma that you make such a choice, and good to be a leader by publicizing the move. However, I will not stand up and clap until some of the movers and shakers in our hobby start expending some tangible resources on making these scammers uncomfortable. I am no fan of our legal system, but until someone is willing to step up and spend some money on lawyers without expectation of financial reward, no real progress will be made towards cleaning up the hobby.
Conversely, one high-profile takedown will probably be sufficient to give pause to all the other high-volume scammers. I can think of one in particular whose conduct has already, to my mind, crossed the line past which there has been successful prosecution.
You'de think eBay would also block that type of communication too for you.
His photoshop skills are lousy and he is not the only one on ebay who doctors scans.
I once bought a coin from another seller/dealer on ebay who expertly photoshops out distracting bagmarks on slabbed coins. When I received my first coin from him, it had several bagmarks which were not in his scans. When the areas in question were examined more closely, I then was able to see something was done to brush out the bagmarks in his scans. When I questioned him, he said that he didnt know what happened and possibly something happened when his photographer shot the photos. I returned the coin. This was over a year ago and to this day when I see one of his nice scans of a coin I want, I stop myself from buying from him. Too bad.
kimchee
-Mark Twain
<< <i>Brandon, did you tell DMPL why you were declining his offer? If not, you should.
I did send a reason. Did you read what I wrote to him in the picture I posted?
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<< <i>Brandon, did you tell DMPL why you were declining his offer? If not, you should.
I did send a reason. Did you read what I wrote to him in the picture I posted? >>
I had missed that. Thanks and well done.
<< <i>they've always seemed a but sketch to me. >>
I've seen some nude paintings but have never seen a butt sketch.
Nice going.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
I will bid on and win one of your auctions then next time one of yours catches my eye.
somewhere.Lets hope more people will stand up for whats right.
Bruce
<< <i>If the buyer is placed on your bidders block list are they still able to send you offers via the eBay system? >>
I wonder that also. I've had this particular slimeball on my blocked bidder list for quite some time.
Russ, NCNE
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Photoshop, probably -- enhancing the color to make toners look more wild than they are. A fair number of eBay sellers do that regularly. >>>
Yep. The picture fixer seller that C&P's over the coin defects..
You got the 25 sellers that soup up their tone coin pictures...
The 15 that turn regular coins into frosty DMPL's...
The 12 that use shadows to hide the defects...
The 85 that take itty bitty pictures you can't see.....
The 11 that blur out the defects.....
Hell I can't keep track of all the fraudsters.
Remember back in the goodle days when everybody thought bondman was a bad bad man with his evil scanner? LOL!
Must be a coincidence!!
Makes me want to Log-In to My Anaconda & buy something.
<< <i>Perhaps the fact that his offer was below 75% below your asking made the decision a little easier. >>
I think you need to re-run your numbers:
BIN Price: $450
Offer: $313
That's roughly 30% off the asking price.
Brandon should be applauded for his actions here, IMO...Mike