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What's the deal with these "double" dies?
XpipedreamR
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XpipedreamR
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Can't get the others to load.
TD
I got all of them to load up, and they're all the same,
as you described.
It's ashame that people will end up buying these things,
thinking they are genuine mint errors....
Absolutely fake. I got mad at first, but the seller's one line description says "coin shop says was altered outside of mint", or something to that effect. They are selling this as alterations. Unfortunately some bidders cannot read and will pay too much.
<< <i>It's ashame that people will end up buying these things,
thinking they are genuine mint errors.... >>
Fortunately, there was nothing to think about... Especially when the seller clearly states that they are altered.
Auction 1: Description
coin is real error is not coin has been altered.
Auction 2: Description
Coin shop said coin has been altered outside the mint.
Auction 4: Description
Coin is real. Error is not. Coin has been altered. triple die. See pics. Have several.
I wonder if a bidder's failure to actually read the single sentence of text in an auction would constitute a legitimate defense of "I was ripped off".
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1969s WCLR-001 counterclash
The way to distinguish if these are real double strikes or fabrications is by looking at the details. If these were real double strikes, then the underlining detail (supposedly the first strike), would have been mostly obliterated by the stronger second strike. Instead, what you can see on those fabrications is that some of the first strike (as struck at the Mint) is deformed by the fake second strike. This would not happen on a real double strike. There are other factors to look at as well, but this is the main sign that these are fabrications. See picture below.......
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(people share the truth) threads like this are most enlightening and help to educate.
so thanks xpipedreamr for starting it.
proof once again that there are more than twosides2acoin
and they are called "Doubled" die errors...
but I still wanna know about this one
I know it's a little off topic, but just the same... I'm curious about this faint doubling between the letters on this 1941 Wheat cent . Insignificant ? Unusual ?
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Wow-- it is so easy to rip someone off--you can even tell them they are altered and still make out good. i could see paying maybe $2.00 for one if you wanted it for a reference collection or something but $102.51??
<< <i>why this place is a safe haven !
(people share the truth) threads like this are most enlightening and help to educate.
so thanks xpipedreamr for starting it.
proof once again that there are more than twosides2acoin
and they are called "Doubled" die errors...
but I still wanna know about this one
I know it's a little off topic, but just the same... I'm curious about this faint doubling between the letters on this 1941 Wheat cent . Insignificant ? Unusual ?
To me, that looks legitimate. I would think that the metal being used to create the doubling effect would've damaged the rim in some way if it was fake doubling.
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