Hiding or revealing registration numbers. Poll

notwilight · November 12, 2006 1:51PM

Should a seller hide the registration number on high quality coins? There are forum members here who have reported blatant steeling of numbers from auctions and regitering as a part of a registry set. This could also cause a problem if the buyer wants to register it. So would you like it to be covered in the photo? Assume high quality, expensive coin, well described auction with good photos and no reason to be suspicious other than the covered numbers.

smokinjoe925 · November 12, 2006 2:00PM

I think that the seller should hide them, but anyone requesting the numbers (for verification) should be able to get them.

flaminio · November 12, 2006 2:02PM

I honestly don't care. If I get the coin that was pictured in the auction, I'm pleased, regardless of whether the reg number was hidden or not.

JoeLewis · November 12, 2006 2:08PM

Why not just put the coin in a registry set yourself until the buyer receives the coin?

19Lyds · November 12, 2006 2:10PM

And if you happen to have two of them?? What then?

notwilight · November 12, 2006 2:16PM

<< Why not just put the coin in a registry set yourself until the buyer receives the coin? >>

That's a good idea.

notwilight · November 12, 2006 2:17PM

<< And if you happen to have two of them?? What then? >>

That's a different question. If the coin is expensive, I'll take a photo of the actual coin.

If I'm selling a bunch of state quarters, I'll reuse the photo with a note to that effect in the auction. I'm not sure where I would cut it off but in that case I would clearly state that the photo may not be the actual coin.

--Jerry

BAJJERFAN · November 12, 2006 2:21PM

<< And if you happen to have two of them?? What then? >>

Uhhh, start another set?

TwoSides2aCoin · November 12, 2006 3:48PM

I don't like fraud or cheating of any kind. I am not for hiding anything, and am against others stealing, cheating, lying, even exaggerating the truth one iota.
When I sell anything, it is my intent to give the entire truth, offer the maximum benefit (buy back offer/guarantee.. and build trust by delivering on that which is represented) to the customer (buyer). I expect the same when purchasing, though I would be naive to think others excercise these same practices.
Registration numbers are irrelevant in the scope of life, for me, but...
If I could prevent fraud by hiding the number, Jerry... and that is what this thread is about, I would hide the registration number. However, my question is: should I hide the numbers ?... or if listing on ebay, am I better off just putting it out there so there is transparency ?
I couldn't vote, but you opened up dialogue and that is always good

Joe
p.s. I don't worry too much when buying or selling as I use the "contact seller" or "contact buyer" feature in electronic transactions where there might be questions. If in doubt, I don't do it.

Hugegut · November 12, 2006 4:04PM

What kind of wierdo would want to set up a registry set of coins they don't own? They should make better use of their time. Maybe fill up Whitman folders with coin pictures they cut out of a magazine...

Thenewguy · November 12, 2006 5:21PM

I would think that hidding them is ok but should be done with a strip of paper and not a graphics program. The strip of paper could have the sellers ebay handle printed on it to prevent scammers from easily stealing the photo without having to photoshop the name out.

notwilight · November 13, 2006 2:01AM

<< I would think that hidding them is ok but should be done with a strip of paper and not a graphics program. The strip of paper could have the sellers ebay handle printed on it to prevent scammers from easily stealing the photo without having to photoshop the name out. >>

This is how I do it--I usually use a trimmed yellow sticky that doesn't leave goo on the slab.

I like Hugegut's observation too.

TTT for the weekday crowd. Results are showing that you can't make everyone happy here either.

Russ · November 13, 2006 3:50AM

<< Why not just put the coin in a registry set yourself until the buyer receives the coin? >>

That's what I do. Park it temporarily. Serves the same purpose as covering the cert number, and I don't have to asnwer the invariable question from bidders of "Why is the cert number hidden?"

Russ, NCNE

sonoranmonsoon · November 13, 2006 7:47AM

The poll is a bit biased. I wanted to vote no, but not because the seller has anything to hide. I wanted to vote no, because I am too damn lazy to figure out how to block the number. Unfortunately, that was not an option

Newb · November 13, 2006 8:30AM

Anyone ever tried to scan a UPC code off a monitor?

Just curious.

itsnotjustme · November 13, 2006 8:36AM

Perhaps if it wont scan from the monitor, you could print it then scan it!!

Anyone hiding the serial number must also hide the bar code to be effective.

Maybe we can add RFID to slabs....

Coindexter · November 13, 2006 8:38AM

No RFID anywhere ever. Thanks.

itsnotjustme · November 13, 2006 8:42AM

How about Fast Pass (or similar) so your car can speed through toll booths?

Thenewguy · November 19, 2006 3:20AM

<< No RFID anywhere ever. Thanks. >>

robertpr · November 19, 2006 3:25AM

Wouldn't a more effective solution be to have PCGS and/or NGC take harsh action against anyone caught using cert numbers of coins they do not own? Such as barring that person from participation in the registry altogether?

BAJJERFAN · November 19, 2006 4:04AM

<< Wouldn't a more effective solution be to have PCGS and/or NGC take harsh action against anyone caught using cert numbers of coins they do not own? Such as barring that person from participation in the registry altogether? >>

If they couldn't keep alts out of the OF how can they do it in the Registry?

TAClough · November 19, 2006 4:10AM

You don't even have to add the coin to a Registry set anymore, just add it to you inventory and take it out when you sell it.

notwilight · November 19, 2006 4:43AM

<< Wouldn't a more effective solution be to have PCGS and/or NGC take harsh action against anyone caught using cert numbers of coins they do not own? Such as barring that person from participation in the registry altogether? >>

And what does that have to do with the ebay seller listing the auction?

So far the poll results are about 50/50.

The auction I have running currently has the cert number covered up with a handwritten yellow sticky note with my PCGS screen name on it. I have a note in the auction that if anyone wants the cert number they should contact me and I'll get it to them.

--Jerry

LindeDad · November 19, 2006 4:49AM

As said before just put it in your inventory and delete when you ship the coin. Does not have to be in a set even.
V2 has a lot of things to help us all in different ways.

And if you forget to delete BJ will get in contact with you.

Hiding or revealing registration numbers. Poll

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