Of All The Cards You Picked Up Raw....

Stone193 · November 8, 2006 6:40AM

tell us about one of your best buys - raw value - vs. graded SMR value.

Any surprises?

Mine was a 61F #46 IA - Baylor that I picked up for 30 bucks - had it graded - came back a PSA 9. Value?
Probably in the 600$ range?

mike

frankhardy · November 8, 2006 6:50AM

I recently picked up a couple of 1967 Topps commons for $1 each. They graded PSA 9's.

mcholke · November 8, 2006 6:52AM

I no longer have either but I picked up a 1969 Topps and 1970 Topps Tony Perez cards on Ebay for less that $5 each in 2005 and submitted both on the same submission and got a 10 on the 1969 and a 9 on the 1970. Both still 1/1s. Here is the submission results

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 90445751 1965 TOPPS 316 REDS TEAM N/A 8
2 90445752 1966 TOPPS 72 TONY PEREZ ALL-STAR ROOKIE 7
3 90445753 1966 O-PEE-CHEE 59 CINCINNATI REDS N/A 6
4 90445754 1969 TOPPS 295 TONY PEREZ N/A 8
4 90445755 1969 TOPPS 295 TONY PEREZ N/A 10
4 90445756 1969 TOPPS 295 TONY PEREZ N/A 7
4 90445757 1969 TOPPS 295 TONY PEREZ N/A 7
5 90445758 1970 O-PEE-CHEE 63 N.L. RBI LEADERS McCOVEY/SANTO/PEREZ Not Holdered, Miscut
6 90445759 1970 TOPPS 63 N.L. RBI LEADERS McCOVEY/SANTO/PEREZ 8
7 90445760 1970 TOPPS 380 TONY PEREZ N/A 9
8 90445761 1970 O-PEE-CHEE 544 REDS TEAM N/A 4
9 90445762 1971 O-PEE-CHEE 357 REDS TEAM N/A 9
10 90445763 1971 O-PEE-CHEE 580 TONY PEREZ N/A 9OC

Date Received: 04/08/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 04/14/2005
Date Shipped: 04/14/2005

RemynSkyler · November 8, 2006 6:55AM

Picked up 3 raw mid-west sets of 1981-82 Topps Basketball for $10.00 delivered. It yielded 3 PSA 10's which were the first to be graded 10's and numerous PSA 9's for my registry set.

Mark

bri2327 · November 8, 2006 6:56AM

First card that comes to mind is a raw 1970 Munson RC off ebay for roughly $15-20 that ended up a PSA 8.

lawnmowerman · November 8, 2006 6:57AM

Bought this a few years ago raw for $80.00 from some dude on the Beckett boards. Probably could sell it for $80.00

I could care less because its not going anywhere. I still dont know why it graded a 9

The only thing I can think of is the grader may have been confused in thinking it was an auto obtained in person.

qualitycards · November 8, 2006 7:03AM

<< Mine was a 61F #46 IA - Baylor that I picked up for 30 bucks - had it graded - came back a PSA 9. Value? >>

STONE - That can't beat your T3 that came back a PSA-6
You could probably make at least a grand profit, maybe double that...jay

RipublicaninMass · November 8, 2006 7:06AM

TRADED a handful of non-sport misc. which were under the glass of my desk for years, probably a 50 dollar retail value for a 1955 topps Ted Kluzewski which graded 8 and sells for 140-170 on ebay.

Bought strong 1955 Podres for 100 bucks and it graded PSA 8 which sells on ebay for 1400+ range, but only 2 have ever been on ebay. It is the 2nd lowest pop inthe set and he is a Brooklyn dodger, not to mention 7th game winner of 1955 world series over the yanks. This one nevers come up for sale!

paleocards · November 8, 2006 7:17AM

Bought this card raw at my favorite shop on August 14, 2004, for $140.00:

Joined PSA at the Chicago National in July of 2005 and the '61 Aaron All Star was part of my inaugural submission.

Here's what it looks like today:

At the time of its grading, it was a 1/18 with none higher and it booked at $1250. Now it's 1/22 with one 10 now graded and it books at $800 (pretty accurate, I've tracked two sales on eBay and they both finished around $750). It shows the volatility of the high-end market...

Fun thread, Stone!

Stone193 · November 8, 2006 7:20AM

<< 

<< Mine was a 61F #46 IA - Baylor that I picked up for 30 bucks - had it graded - came back a PSA 9. Value? >>

STONE - That can't beat your T3 that came back a PSA-6
You could probably make at least a grand profit, maybe double that...jay >>

Good memory Jay

Now with respect to the relationship of original cost to SMR value it's not as good.

I paid 500$ for that card raw - but you're right - it was a good buy.

Also, the 75T mini Ryan - I techically paid 30$ for that card since I split a 60$ table with a guy for the card.
That came back a 9 - I think it's worth in the 400$ range?

thanx for the memory jog Jay
mike

yankeeno7 · November 8, 2006 7:25AM

I purchased a nice stack of 1956 Topps Presidents for approximately 3 bucks a piece. Graded a bunch that came back PSA 8's and sold on ebay for 70-85 a piece.

I like the thread Mike!

Elemenopeo · November 8, 2006 7:29AM

A 1973 Topps Reggie Jackson that I bought raw for about $11 delivered. It graded a 9 and I sold it for $270.

Stone193 · November 8, 2006 7:37AM

Paleo

That card's off the chart!

Sweet.
mike

Stone193 · November 8, 2006 7:40AM

This is the card I picked up raw that Quality is talking about.

It's a great looking card - many have asked to trade for it - but I can't part with it. It's just too darn nice.

Now, if I needed the $? It would be summarily sent over to Jay for liquidation.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · November 8, 2006 7:51AM

Had a Bill Ripken Black Scribble and I couldnt sell it for min bid of $5 for 2 weeks on ebay. Sent it to BGS and it came back a 9.5 Sold it to my buddy for $70.

digicat · November 8, 2006 8:14AM

Picked up this raw OJ card about 5 years ago for under $50.

Got it graded...

90564979 1970 TOPPS 90 O.J. SIMPSON N/A 9

Then sold it on Ebay earlier this year for just under $700.

qualitycards · November 8, 2006 8:17AM

<< Now, if I needed the $? It would be summarily sent over to Jay for liquidation. >>

MIKE - Cool!
Send me that card and I'll send you a crsip $20.00 bill
win/win baby!

Sheamaster · November 8, 2006 8:19AM

Bought raw at show for $4. Not in SMR, but sell in $50-$80 range. Tough card due to the black borders.

markj111 · November 8, 2006 8:19AM

I bought a large collection in 1985 for two grand. It produced 59 PSA 8s of Rice, Triandos, and several others from that year. I also got a 67 Clemente PSA 8 out of it. There were a lot of other PSA 8s in there, but not many stars. I did not have any of them graded until the last few years. I bought a partial 1965 set for $350 set not much later than that; virtually every card was an 8, with a handful of nines (including a 1/1). I am still working on completing the set in 8 or better.

One of the few advantages of being older than most is that your cards are older as well.

lawnmowerman · November 8, 2006 8:21AM

<<

Bought raw at show for $4. Not in SMR, but sell in $50-$80 range. Tough card due to the black borders. >>

Nice card!

matt

Sheamaster · November 8, 2006 8:25AM

Thanks Matt. Both of these purchased raw as well...

stown · November 8, 2006 8:51AM

While I haven't graded it yet, this is my best raw purchase:

Advertised as "very good condition", not one crease, corners are good, and same size as my other '55s.

Seller had under 100 fb and didn't offer paypal. It had scam written all over it but the under $100 gamble paid off

XanaduNow · November 8, 2006 9:16AM

Same here. Haven't gotten it graded yet but it's on its way in next week.

Got this and 3 others from the set for $21 delivered. It's a 1922 Comic Life Sports Champions Jack Dempsey RC and no matter what it comes back for a grade I'll be quite happy with the deal I got.

The funny thing is that it was listed in the entirely wrong category (can't remember what it was now). Something crazy like 15th century Scandinavian saddles or something. I wish I knew how long it had been sitting in the guy's store for or if he would occasionally lower the price because it wasn't selling. Just dumb luck on my part.

Arthur

PS. And no, I don't want to hear any comments about why I was in the 15th century Scandinavian saddle category

themetalsign · November 8, 2006 9:44AM

Got this for $20 after cherry picking a stack of them. SGC graded it on sight and it came back as this.

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Dave D.

lawnmowerman · November 8, 2006 9:45AM

NICE!!

themetalsign · November 8, 2006 9:48AM

Thanks for the pic. I'll figure this out someday.

lawnmowerman · November 8, 2006 9:49AM

<< Thanks for the pic. I'll figure this out someday. >>

CON40 · November 8, 2006 10:12AM

Mike... nice thread idea!

I picked up this T206 for $40 raw... it would sell for $1200+ today I think.

leadoff4 · November 8, 2006 10:24AM

Bought a '72 Tony Perez for $1. Graded a PSA 9 and sold for $85.

RedHeart54 · November 8, 2006 10:33AM

These are all great stories.

Mine-

1953 Red Man Pee Wee Reese for $170 or $180. Came back an 8. The only one close I've seen sell was an SGC 88 for around $1400 in a Goodwin auction.
1959 Stan Musial #470 Hit #3000 for $50. Came back a 9. SMR used to be $750 but it may be less now.
Most of my better cards I bought in the '80s have come back at least an 8.

NewJerseyMeatHook · November 8, 2006 10:48AM

Leadoff: Funny, I did the exact same thing with the exact same card. Strange.

Boopotts · November 8, 2006 11:04AM

<< Bought a '72 Tony Perez for $1. Graded a PSA 9 and sold for $85. >>

LOL! Like you and MJM, I too bought a '72 Perez raw. It originally came back an 8, I resubmitted it and got a 9, and sold it in the fall of '03 for about $180.

tennesseebanker · November 8, 2006 11:14AM

I overpayed for an 85 Topps Raw Clemens rookie last spring I gave $35 bucks or so for it and it came back a Psa 10 ! I sold the thing for close to $500 buck-o's

Stone193 · November 8, 2006 2:12PM

<< Mike... nice thread idea!

I picked up this T206 for $40 raw... it would sell for $1200+ today I think.

>>

Keith

Great card and a real prize!

mike

bbne1 · November 8, 2006 2:34PM

Bought these raw - the 2 Mays cards for $150 total, the Mantle for $20, and the Aaron for $30. I won't tell you about all the other cards I bought with flaws I didn't see.

phreakydancin · November 8, 2006 6:00PM

The very first vintage card I ever bought was a 1951 Parkhurst #26 Bill Quackenbush RC, not long after I joined these forums. Paid $35 for a raw example on eBay, at the time the most I'd ever spent on a card. I figured from the scans it was probably a 5, maybe a 6. Came back a 7, which books for $150. Here's a scan of it pre-graded...

1966CUDA · November 8, 2006 10:56PM

Picked up a 1959 Topps BB #470 Musial 3000th hit card raw on Ebay for $35 advertised as nm/mt. Sent to PSA and came back PSA 9 and sold later on Ebay for over $700!! ( I still have a scan of it...probably should have held onto it!)

-Claude

cohocorp · November 8, 2006 11:15PM

mike-- good idea for a thread.

EAsports · November 8, 2006 11:53PM

My local dealer gave me (4) 1960 Topps Yankees after I purchased some vintage from a collection he acquired.

Sent them in, two came back as 8s, two as 7s.

I sold the two 8s for about $150 per, and kept the two 7s.

Bought (2) '67 Topps Hank Aarons during that same purchase, for $60 total. Both came back as 8s. Got around $250 - $275 each for those two. I still have two other '67 Aarons that are in equally great shape as the two 8s.

Also bought a 1955 Topps All-American common for $10. It graded out as an 8 as well.

That was a good vintage day. My local dealer is great. He doesn't do much grading, and calls his "regulars" to look at collections he buys, before he puts them on the shelf.

Brian48 · November 9, 2006 1:05AM

Picked up 3 Topps Gretzky rookies for $1 a piece a few years ago from a dime store that had a bunch of cards from different years and sports lumped together. Kept one of them and had it graded BVG 7.5.

bobbybakeriv · November 9, 2006 1:10AM

Nice work! Some of those finds are incredible.

I bought a 1976 Topps Rod Carew a few years ago for less than $5 raw on Ebay. It graded out PSA 10 but I really don't know the value but it is much greater than $5....likely not greater than all the wasted money spent on other raw purchases though.

jskirwin · November 9, 2006 1:24AM

I've been buying raw for 3 years now and have yet to strike it big (PSA 9 or better).
One of these days...
One of these days...

PS: Happy Birthday to the USMC.

Brian48 · November 9, 2006 1:33AM

<< I've been buying raw for 3 years now and have yet to strike it big (PSA 9 or better).
One of these days...
One of these days...

PS: Happy Birthday to the USMC.

>>

Yeah, I forgot. It's tomorrow isn't it? I gotta go wave my flag in the yard tomorrow and annoy my neighbor.

tkd7 · November 9, 2006 1:59AM

I bought this card raw for $5 about 30 years ago. It survived in my 9 pocket pages until I sent it in for grading last year.

NickM · November 9, 2006 2:02AM

'51 Connie Mack All-Star Mickey Cochrane for about $75 including shipping - came back a PSA 5 (sells in the $300 to $400 range)
'40 Play Ball Charlie Gehringer (advertised as VG or better) for $23.50 including shipping - came back a PSA 6 (SMR $110)
'66 Topps Venezuelan NL ERA Leaders (Koufax and Marichal) advertised as VG-EX for $13.51 including shipping - came back a PSA 4 (probably would sell for $100 to $125).

I have a few more raw pickups that will go in eventually, including some '40 Play Ball high #s that should get 6's (SMR $50, paid $10 plus shipping) and a T-206 Hal Chase that should get a 3 (SMR $75, paid $15 plus shipping).

Nick

roastedcat · November 9, 2006 3:04AM

I purchased a 1948 Leaf Babe Ruth for $800. some years back in raw form. I sent it to SGC at the time and recieved a 86 graded 7.5 and then sent it to PSA during a cross over special and recieved an 8.

In 1992 I even had a 1951 Bowman Mantle I purchased on ebay, the guy said he was sure it was a reprint. Looked real to me, I think I paid $86. for it. I then sent it to PSA when they used to be at Frank & Son's, I was wondering if they holdered reprint back then, week later came back as a PSA 6

Lot of great bargain when ebay first started, now all you find is a ton of junk.

Jery

lostdart58 · November 9, 2006 3:08AM

<< .........likely not greater than all the wasted money spent on other raw purchases though.

>>

Amen to that......

NYYDM23 · November 9, 2006 3:49AM

Here are some I just got back from the last special. I picked up all 3 Mantle cards from the same seller on eBay for $50 shipped when the special first started and I picked up the Torre card which is top/bottom OC for $1 at a show.

Of All The Cards You Picked Up Raw....

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