whose grading do you trust more ANACS or NGC?

seateddime · October 27, 2006 2:39PM

Assuming VF-AU Seated or Barber coinage.

Which service is more likley to be properly graded, ANACS or NGC?

derryb · October 27, 2006 2:52PM

I've always had a higher regard for NGC, but after doing some research ANACS is under some pretty talented management right now. Seems their leader spent some time in the trenches over at PCGS. Have not tried them out yet, but getting ready to send them a couple of "detached leg" bison nickels I came across. Seems PCGS doesn't recognize this error.

ziggy29 · October 27, 2006 2:52PM

I'd pretty much call it a draw.

DennisH · October 27, 2006 2:56PM

NGC hands down -- but only in the series I know anything about (Morgans).

AZLARRY · October 27, 2006 3:31PM

PCGS and NGC top level, ANACS one step down, but still very respectable.

seemyauction · October 27, 2006 4:38PM

I only tust myself......Opinions are accepted but not always agreed with.....

AL

PerryHall · October 27, 2006 8:31PM

Both are top tier grading services and both do a good job but you need to look at the coin and not just trust the label. This also applies to PCGS.

Cam40 · October 27, 2006 8:57PM

depending on the series,all three companies are probably within a couple points most of the time
on all coins.
anacs can be,or has been pretty tough/strict with grading some series compared to ngc who i usually
think overgrades their stuff by atleast one point to pcgs.
anacs vs ngc?
ngc is bigger in the market than anacs but the fact that anacs will not body bag but slab your problem coins with a net grade
where i dont think ngc or pcgs will do that that often...

IrishMike · October 27, 2006 9:54PM

Proper grade, interesting concept. Do you think they use the same grading standards? If one reads these boards and agrees with certain experts they all use a different standard.

morgannut2 · October 27, 2006 9:59PM

Since I know nothing about these coins--really I have no idea!

coinkat · October 27, 2006 10:52PM

I agree with Perry Hall...however, it seems NGC has more respect in the market place which I think is a point is well founded.

roadrunner · October 27, 2006 11:21PM

For VF-AU barbers and seated I'd have to give my nod to ANACS.
I generally dislike AU NGC coins because most are scrubbed and lacking luster. With ANACS you have a better chance of getting a highly lustrous and orig coin imo. NGC slabs too much marginal stuff.

But the flip side is that the NGC coin has more saleability and liquidity. Go try to sell ANAC'S coins that don't bark "undergraded" and see how hard they are to sell as a rule. I've tried selling ANACS barbers, seated, gold, commems, and even bust, and I can assure you there is a prejudice against them. The blue sheet pricing continues that by listing ANACS coins at inferior prices.

I trust ANACS more. But I have to evaluate the coin closely before I'll plunk down any money for an ANACS coin these days. It must be high end, totally unmessed with, or a flipping bargain to take a shot.
Gold coins have less risk but even selling ANACS MS64 Saints or Common date Morgans is a pain in the butt. Those are always the hardest to sell.....and so easy to buy.

roadrunner

Coxe · October 27, 2006 11:25PM

Circulated Seated? I would give it to ANACS. They are all pretty good with that though and can't see a fuss on that material in that regard. I prefer ANACS too since they will attribute the varieties. In the past, their attributions were pretty reliable too. Havne't worked seated stuff since the turnover of people and holders though.

MikeKing · October 28, 2006 12:15AM

I'll rank them NGC/PCGS, then ANACS
why? personal experience and judgement based on small numbers. I've never done a large enough survey...BUT
fact:
ANACS coin #1 rejected by NGC for environmental damage, holdered by PCGS same grade as ANACS
ANACS coin #2 rejected by both NGC and PCGS as cleaned, resubmitted to ANACS for evaluation (with documentation from NGC and PCGS) and STILL graded as an un-fooled with coin (the coin was OBVIOUSLY fooled with).
I will no longer buy an ANACS graded coin unless I can view it in person, even if there is a return policy because I'm just not industrious enough to take the chance. Had ANACS been honest with me and acknowledged the coin was cleaned, I'd be a lot more comfortable with that company. I am not.

Newcomp103 · October 28, 2006 12:56AM

Based on what I have seen at coin shows...ANACS seems more consistent...I have owned and sold coins from both services...on 2 occasions, NGC coins seemed overgraded in a few different dealers opinions, but it may have just been the coins...I had a 1996-W Roosevelt dime NGC 68(should have been a 67 due to average strike) and a 1921-D Mercury dime NGC VG 8 (even though you coulds barely see any vertical lines on the reverse...Should have been a strong G6,but I'm not 100% sure they use that grade) Just do your homework and grade the coin yourself...you are guaranteed to have an authentic coin with both services!

JrGMan2004 · October 28, 2006 12:58AM

NGC

ABC123 · October 28, 2006 1:00AM

Depends upon the coin !

lkenefic · October 28, 2006 1:28AM

Depending upon the day...time...lighting...personnel...phase of the moon...whatever...PCGS, NGC, and ANACS all rate the same in my opinion. I've seen properly graded coins in all three holders as well as improperly graded coins in all three holders. These days...I think it's something of a draw. The final decision on any given coin, in any given grade, in any given holder is up to the person buying it. Leo

PerryHall · October 28, 2006 3:37AM

<< <i>Depending upon the day...time...lighting...personnel...phase of the moon...whatever...PCGS, NGC, and ANACS all rate the same in my opinion. I've seen properly graded coins in all three holders as well as improperly graded coins in all three holders. These days...I think it's something of a draw. The final decision on any given coin, in any given grade, in any given holder is up to the person buying it. Leo >>

tcmitssr · October 28, 2006 3:42AM

We all say, and largely mean, buy the coin not the holder. However, when the time comes to sell, do you think ANACS or NGC gives you the chance for a higher profit?

That's the real answer.

PCGS, for me, probably 90 percent of the time is the answer.

mozin · October 28, 2006 4:51AM

ANACS grades more liberally on non problem coins.

ANACS grades more consistently than NGC.

NGC grades some marginal coins that ANACS would net grade.

NGC holders bring more money than ANACS holders.

Which do I trust more? It depends on considering all four of the above.

pitboss · October 28, 2006 5:31AM

I have compared many Wisconsin ,both high & low leaf, of all three services. I really dont see much difference between PCGS and ANACS, but feel the grades from NGC do not come up to the standard of the other two. I really like the new holders from ANACS because you can see the coin much better.

09sVDB · October 28, 2006 6:55AM

Don't know about the series, but in general: NGC

bidask · October 28, 2006 7:25AM

They both have to many "market graded" coins. There equal.

flaminio · October 28, 2006 7:47AM

IMHO: Old ANACS > NGC > New ANACS

Shamika · October 28, 2006 8:30AM

I think they're about the same. However, NGC does seem to award super grades far more often than ANACS. I don't know if there's anything to this.

seateddime · October 28, 2006 9:52AM

the good news is at least either can be trusted the coin is authentic

WTCG · October 28, 2006 5:19PM

That is one easy comparison. NGC is definitely the better grading company of the two.

seateddime · October 28, 2006 9:15PM

<< <i>That is one easy comparison. NGC is definitely the better grading company of the two. >>

I don't think it's easy at all. My real answer is

michael · October 28, 2006 10:49PM

Assuming VF-AU Seated or Barber coinage.

Which service is more likley to be properly graded, ANACS or NGC?

hit and miss................

and also i agree with what roadrunner said especially so the au comment with regards to ngc

roadrunner · October 29, 2006 1:03AM

Interesting comment that you almost never see high grade type coins in PF/MS66 ANACS holders. Either they are typically undergraded and wisked away to other holders or owners do not send them to ANACS in the first place.

I've had enough bad experiences with trying to cross high grade ANACS coins that I shy away from them. The last 3 I picked up to cross came back altered surfaces, stained, and AT. I was lucky to only lose a little on that bunch. ANACS has more to learn there or NGC needs to get a thicker skin. For what its worth I sold all 3 of those in the ANACS holders to TOP retail dealers who like to resubmit. No doubt they were going to try for upgrades or crosses.

roadrunner

MikeInFL · October 29, 2006 1:05AM

I agree with Mozin...

ANACS grades more liberally on non problem coins.

ANACS grades more consistently than NGC.

NGC grades some marginal coins that ANACS would net grade.

NGC holders bring more money than ANACS holders.

Which do I trust more? It depends on considering all four of the above.

I would choose ANACS, but I admittedly don't follow seated/barber coinage closely, and I base my statements on my experience with circulated large cents...Mike

kryptonitecomics · October 29, 2006 1:12AM

<< <i>I'd pretty much call it a draw. >>

whose grading do you trust more ANACS or NGC?

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