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The Strawberry Leaf Cent

I have read all the print resources I have that make mention of this curious variety.

I am interested to learn more. image

What I know so far is that there are 4 (perhaps 5) examples extant, all are badly worn and there are two reverse varieties.

I have read the dies were possibly the work of Adam Eckfeldt, Joseph Rittenhouse or some other outside contractor. The die work is cruder than on the other wreath cents.

No one really knows why this variety was created.

It was first called a cottonleaf cent.

See pictures of the highest graded specimen here.

Thanks!

-Amanda
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Wow. Looks like the guy holding the coin was out in the parking lot when the picture was taken. Good thing he didn't drop it on the pavement. image
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,464 ✭✭✭
    friggin GEORGOUS !
    Thanks for sharin Leinana !!!

    "He informed the woman that her coin was extremely valuable, authentic, and a museum piece."

    Well done, Mr. Dealer image
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Here is ANR's auction description of the coin in question:

    "1793 NC-3. Rarity-8. Strawberry Leaf. F-12 (NGC).

    13.10 grams. Among the 295 die varieties of early cents numbered by Dr. William Sheldon, in addition to the 53 varieties so rare he deemed them "non-collectible," no variety captures the imagination of early American copper specialists so much as the 1793 Strawberry Leaf cent. Only four are known, all of which are well worn, a fact that no doubt contributes to the aura of mystery and desirability that surrounds them. The long-unknown whereabouts of the finest known specimen, a coin that is numerically twice as fine as the next best example, only adds to that aura and cachet.

    That finest known example has reappeared, and now, in 2004, those who have awaited their chance to purchase a specimen of this charismatic rarity are rewarded. This coin is the Parmelee 1793 Strawberry Leaf cent, untraced since 1941 and not offered publicly since 1890. We are delighted to be the first numismatic researchers since Sylvester S. Crosby to examine this coin, and we are honored to present it for public sale to collectors for the first time in 114 years.

    Its surfaces are finely and evenly granular and dark brown, the devices a medium shade of brown that contrast with the deeper toning present in the fields. Some scattered microscopic pits are visible on Liberty's cheek, but for the most part the devices are smooth and pleasing. The sharpness of this piece is almost incomparable to the other two privately-held Strawberry Leaf cents, called "tired and worn out" by their present owner. The word LIBERTY is complete and well-defined, with even and well-formed letters of small size, essentially identical in scale and character to those found on the obverse of every 1793 Wreath cent variety but for Sheldon-5. Likewise, the date on this specimen is complete, and like the word LIBERTY it closely resembles the date digits found on other 1793 Wreath cents—the numeral 3 has a delicate bottom curve that appears weak at its lowest point, identical to Sheldon 6 through 11 as noted above, and the 9 with its short bottom stroke is likewise similar to that digit on other Wreath cents, though most like the numeral as punched on the obverse of Sheldon-10. Breen noted in a 1959 article in Empire Topics that this specimen is "the only strawberry leaf coin with all four numerals of the date legible," allowing for the easiest comparison of the very strong similarity between these digits and the potentially identical punches used on other 1793 Wreath varieties.

    The figure of Liberty again bears strong similarities to other 1793 Wreath cents, with the three lowest strands of hair long and of nearly equal length, two shorter strands above, another single long strand near the center, and several shorter strands above—this closely parallels the hair on other 1793 Wreath cents. Indeed, the only notable difference between this obverse die and other 1793 Wreath cents is also the precise reason for its fame: a cluster of four small trefoil (three-lobed) leaves above the date and below the truncation of Liberty's bust. These leaves closely parallel those found within the wreath on every 1793 Wreath cent variety, though they are not from the same punch as once suggested by Breen. On no other specimen of the famed Strawberry Leaf cent is the namesake design element so clearly defined. Though they are not precisely identical to the leaves on other Wreath cent reverses, it should be noted that if one looks at any two different trefoils on any single Wreath cent reverse, they are different—each was individually engraved. Around the top of the obverse of this coin, traces of the peripheral beading are present above ERTY of LIBERTY.

    Careful examination of the obverse reveals some light flaws, commensurate with the amount of wear on the coin. Each acts as an identifier that links this coin with its past and future pedigree: a tiny rim nick at 10:00, a nick at the juncture of the hair and the high forehead, a nick under the lowest point of the lowest lock, a nick just inside the rim near 3:00, and a few other tiny marks or abrasions. This obverse has been chosen to illustrate the Strawberry Leaf variety in every edition of the Guide Book since 1946, Ed Frossard's 1879 Monograph of United States Cents and Half Cents, issued Between 1793 and 1857, and Sylvester S. Crosby's 1897 The United States Coinage of 1793. The reverse of this coin was likewise illustrated in Crosby's work on 1793s.

    This reverse sets the NC-3 apart from the unique NC-2, which was discovered earlier. David Proskey was the first to identify this reverse die, with its distinctive high positioning of ONE CENT, and it was this coin that served as the discovery specimen. Proskey catalogued this exact specimen in 1877, when he wrote "1793 Wreath Cent. 'Stars and stripes' on edge with three clover leaves and blossom under the bust. Fair condition, but date and legend perfectly distinct. Unique, both obverse and reverse being from a different die to the one described by S.S. Crosby, Esq." Proskey was wrong about this piece being from a different obverse die, but he gets credit for recognizing the difference in the reverse. On this specimen, the tops of STATES OF are worn into the rim, and the fraction is a bit weak, but all other devices and legends are bold. A rim bruise is noted over M of AMERICA, and a few old vertical scratches near the left ribbon end are long since toned over. The style of the wreath and lettering bears a very marked similarity to other 1793 Wreath cent reverses.

    The edge, though now unfortunately obscured in the certification holder, has been studied and photographed. John Kleeberg, in his important if controversial study on Strawberry Leaf cents in the 1996 ANS COAC proceedings, noted that the edge could be key to answering the ancient question of the origin and purpose of this distinctive design. Eric Newman offered that "accepting the finding that the edge decoration on each strawberry leaf cent differs from the edge decoration of the other strawberry leaf cents and that the edge decoration was cut into each such coin manually and not by Castaing methods" he would posit that the pieces were 19th-century forgeries for collectors, perhaps produced by a character like the infamous re-engraver Smith of Ann Street. Kleeberg noted that he compared the edge of the Strawberry Leaf cents and concluded that "I think the edge was added by hand." The present cataloguer (John Kraljevich) studied the two privately held specimens of the Strawberry Leaf cent along with a Sheldon-5 Wreath cent graciously provided by Dan Holmes at the April 2004 EAC show, before the present coin was rediscovered. When placed atop each other, then twisted and turned like so many facets of a Rubik's Cube, the edges of both Strawberry Leaf cents and the 1793 S-5 lined up precisely—a fact that Mr. Holmes was the first to discover. The edge die used to impress the device on the Strawberry Leaf cents on the Castaing edging machine was identical, i.e. the exact same edge die, as the one that edged that particular S-5-and probably other Wreath cents as well. This proves that the planchets were produced at the U.S. Mint and strikes down theories of extralegal origin, unless a farfetched theory of the removal of blank planchets from the Mint were to be constructed.

    As per a request of Eric Newman, we have likewise scrutinized the Strawberry Leaf cluster and see absolutely no suggestions of disturbance, re-engraving, or other tomfoolery. The weights of the known Strawberry Leaf cents are all within an appropriately close range of the Mint standard 13.48 grams weight. Kleeberg calls himself a "partisan" of the theory that the 1793 Strawberry Leaf cents are contemporary counterfeits. Based upon the ease of making cast counterfeits rather than creating three new and distinctive steel dies, such a theory does not pass the common sense test for us. When further considering the fact that most circulating counterfeits duplicate worn coins (thus making them easier to pass), yet these cents are produced to a weight standard that was abandoned for a lighter one in mid-1795, the scenario becomes even less likely. The new discovery that these cents were produced with the precise same edge die as other collectible 1793 Wreath cent varieties should firmly place this and other theories in the past and confirm this enigmatic issue as an unusual product of the U.S. Mint.

    "But why strawberry leaves (or clover, or laurel, etc.)?" a numismatist might wonder. The first year of coining cents for circulation at the Mint was clearly a series of trials and errors: the weight standard was lowered in January 1793, before a single coin could be struck for circulation at the original statutory weight. Chain cents were struck, then the designs were changed to the more attractive Wreath design, before finally switching gears to use Joseph Wright's masterful Liberty Cap motif. Several different edge motifs were tried: a lettered edge with one leaf, the same lettering followed by two leaves, as well as the "vine and bars" edge that was used on the Chain cents and Wreath cents, including the Strawberry Leaf pieces. Clearly the Mint was not placing a high premium on consistency of design. We are tempted to suggest that the Strawberry Leaf design was merely the result of a bit of artistic license by a Mint engraver, or it could have been the initial design for a type whose later evolution would include only olive leaves as obverse decoration. Undoubtedly the difference in design is more noteworthy to modern numismatists than to those who produced or used cents in Philadelphia in 1793. From the level of wear present on the four known specimens, it is clear that they were produced to circulate and succeeded in their assigned role.

    As one of the most celebrated rarities of the 19th century—a coin which evoked enough passion to cause a brawl on an auction room floor (see more below)—it is a wonder the Strawberry Leaf is not as passionately pursued today. One of the great rarities offered at the Parmelee sale was a Class I 1804 dollar, now in the Durham Western Heritage Museum in Omaha, Nebraska. That piece sold for $570, about five times what this exact coin brought in the same sale. Over the 114 years since the Parmelee sale, there have been dozens of appearances of an 1804 dollar at auction, including some 17 appearances of a Class I 1804 dollar. While an 1804 dollar is an antedated fantasy, its fame grew at every auction appearance. The Strawberry Leaf cents have been on the market far fewer times and exposed much less to the greater collecting populace in the 20th century, indeed, only twice in the history of the variety has a collector owned a piece for less than a decade!

    The history of this specimen is nearly as fascinating as the Strawberry Leaf variety itself. After its discovery by Proskey as the first with the high ONE CENT reverse, the piece was purchased at auction by the famous Boston bean baker Lorin Parmelee (for more on whom, see below). While Parmelee enjoyed "horse trading," this piece was not sold until his entire cabinet was consigned to auction in 1890. It was purchased by another Bostonian, a physician named Dr. Thomas Hall who is best known for his pioneering 1892 work on varieties of Connecticut coppers. The Hall monograph used a system that was followed by Henry Miller and remains the taxonomic standard for Connecticut coppers today. After his death in May 1909, the entire Hall cabinet was purchased intact by Chicago brewing magnate Virgil Brand, including hundreds of colonial coins, large cents, and medals. At the time, Brand had already been collecting for two decades and had developed an insatiable appetite for numismatics, a lifelong passion that is well-described in Dave Bowers' Virgil Brand: A Man and His Era. After his death in 1926, Brand left behind a vast estate including tens of thousands of numismatic items, a holding that was left to his brothers Horace and Armin at the time of his death and was not fully dispersed until the 1980s. In the decades following Brand's death, portions of the collection were consigned to various leading dealers, and in 1941 Armin Brand began to consign large cents from the estate to St. Louis dealer Burdette G. Johnson. Johnson was the proprietor of St. Louis Stamp and Coin Company and served as one of the largest wholesale dealers in the nation at the time, often handling multiple specimens of great rarities—most memorably, all five specimens of the 1913 Liberty Head nickel from the Col. E.H.R. Green estate.

    The very first consignment Armin Brand made to Johnson was 17 1793 cents, on an invoice dated February 7, 1941. All 17 of those cents were Condition Census specimens, and among their number were specimens of all five "NC" varieties of the year then known! Two of those "NCs," as Dr. Sheldon would call them a few years later, are still unique and another (1793 NC-1) was unique at the time and is still 44 points finer than the only other known example. It is telling that, despite the great rarities and the number of superb Mint State 1793 Wreath and Chain cents included (such as the beautiful Koshkarian Sheldon-9 we sold last year for $241,500), the only piece Johnson was able to sell within one year of the consignment was the present specimen, the finest 1793 Strawberry Leaf cent. It was selected before the finest Sheldon-1, the finest NC-1, the second finest Sheldon-4 (considered better than the Eliasberg-Jung piece we recently sold for $391,500, a world record), the finest Sheldon-7, the finest Sheldon-9, and a number of other incredible 1793 cents. James Kelly, a dealer who had a long-standing professional relationship with Johnson, took the piece on consignment from Johnson in May 1941 for $2,500—an incredible sum at the time- and quietly sold it the same year to a nearly unknown collector from Maine, Roscoe E. Staples, for $2,750. In the same era, both the Childs and Dexter 1804 Class I dollars sold in the $4,000 to $5,000 range, an indication of just what $2,750 could buy (like, for instance, a pretty nice house). A few months later, when a new Strawberry cent was discovered (the AG-3 Starr NC-3), it was offered at $2,500 but found no buyers; it sold for $1,200 at auction in 1950.

    The Staples family has held the coin since 1941, but its original purchaser enjoyed the piece for all too short a period of time. Roscoe Staples, a successful businessman, joined the Maine National Guard in 1934 as a second lieutenant and was promoted to first lieutenant in 1940, then captain in 1941 as a great world war approached. As a member of the 103rd Infantry, Staples embarked for the Pacific theatre in fall 1942 after having already been away from his Maine home for a year— it appears by the time he purchased this coin from James Kelly he had already left for training elsewhere in the United States. In early 1943, Staples' regiment was part of a force that left for Guadalcanal and received further training in jungle warfare on the nearby islands. A few months later, in the summer of 1943, orders came down the chain of command that Staples was to help command the regiment as it worked to secure the Munda airfield in the Solomon Islands, then under the control of the Japanese. A young naval officer from nearby Massachusetts, John F. Kennedy, captained a PT board off the coast of Munda (now New Georgia) to patrol for Japanese destroyers during the same action. Kennedy was famously injured when a Japanese vessel collided with his PT-109 off the coast on the night of August 1, 1943. A few miles away the next day, while his troops were actively engaged in taking the Munda airfield from the remaining Japanese forces, then-Major Staples was shot and killed by a Japanese sniper who paid for his actions with his own life. Staples was posthumously awarded the Silver Star for bravery, and he was noted for being "a brilliant officer who had the respect of his men and his superiors." The airfield was secured soon after, after a month of incredible difficulty, on August 5, 1943. His citation noted that "although his duties as a regimental S-3 did not require him to expose himself to enemy fire at the front lines, Major Staples repeatedly visited the companies at forward areas to check the progress of operations and to make suggestions to company commanders in an effort to save lives and to bring the battle to a decisive finish. Major Staples' courage and devotion to duty were an inspiration to the troops and contributed immeasurably to the success of operations."

    While World War II and a 1793 Strawberry Leaf cent would seem to have little in common, we feel it is important to recognize the character and contributions of a little-known past owner of this famous coin. While Proskey, Parmelee, Johnson, and others are well-known to numismatists, and many rare coins can be traced to their hands, Staples' most notable contributions clearly came outside of the realm of numismatics. Since Staples' death, the coin has remained with his family, still enclosed in the 1941 James Kelly envelope. Its significance both as family heirloom and numismatic rarity have always been appreciated.

    We at ANR could not be more proud to offer this great rarity to the modern numismatic community, thereby becoming some small footnote in its remarkable history. The next owner will themselves become the next chapter, joining Proskey, Parmelee, Hall, Brand, and Staples as leading characters in this remarkable story and appending his or her name to this historic provenance. There is no need to cite the great specialized large cent cabinets who have lacked a specimen of this rarity—nearly all have—or the great collectors of the last 150 years who have never owned one, as most never did. With 25% of the population permanently off the market and the two privately held specimens standing tall as the pride and joy of their current, active owner, we cannot foresee another opportunity to purchase a specimen in the upcoming decade or more.

    NGC Census: 1; none finer. This is the only 1793 Strawberry Leaf cent to have been certified by any grading service.

    As noted above, the most famous (though perhaps not the most recent) case of numismatic fisticuffs revolved around a specimen of this precise variety. As described in Carl Carlson's superb November 1978Numismatist article entitled "Strawberry Leaves and Shiners," the ANS example of the NC-3 was the root of a physical struggle between two of the most respected dealers of their era: Ed Frossard and Lyman Low. When the Merritt-Haines-ANS specimen was presented for public sale in December 1894 as part of Frossard's 130th auction, for some reason Lyman Low called Frossard a "liar," though what he lied about is not recorded. Two later recollections of the scene have survived and both describe how Frossard and Low ended up rolling around on the floor until pulled apart by Harlan P. Smith, who lost a diamond stick pin in the fracas. A.G. Heaton noted the "two numismatic sages were soon mixed up on a dusty floor in a manner that would have made football adversaries envious of their combative qualities until, in a badly circulated condition, they were dragged apart by dismayed spectators." Charles Steigerwalt, who sold the piece offered today to Dr. Thomas Hall after the Parmelee sale, noted in a 1911 piece that the Parmelee specimen "described as 'good' was really 'fine' and the best known" and went on in the sale article to state that Frossard and Low "rolled around on the floor of the auction room, trying to kick each other." Notably, Carlson chose to illustrate his article with a photo of this exact specimen, taken from the 1897 Crosby plate.



    First identified by David Proskey; Scott & Co.'s sale of October 1877, Lot 201 (at $77.50); purchased on the floor by H.G. Sampson, acting for Lorin G. Parmelee, outbidding Joseph N.T. Levick's $75 commission for Sylvester S. Crosby; New York Stamp and Coin Co.'s sale of the Parmelee Collection, June 1890, Lot 671 (at $79); purchased by Charles Steigerwalt and resold to Dr. Thomas Hall in October 1890 for $90; sold as part of the intact Hall Collection to Virgil Brand on September 7, 1909; Brand estate; consigned by Armin Brand to B.G. Johnson along with 16 other important 1793 cents on February 7, 1941; to James Kelly in May 1941 for $2,500; to Roscoe E. Staples for $2,750; Staples family."




  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    That Kraljevich can sure tell a story! image

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    A great story and coin indeed!

    But why would anyone collect a coin that doesn't at least have a DCAM designation? image
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    Obscurum per obscurius
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>But why would anyone collect a coin that doesn't at least have a DCAM designation? image >>

    Don't worry. To ancient collectors this is "modern crap." image
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Mark. You left out the sale price so I went a googling: $414k in 04. Amanda, you'll have to save up a bit.

    I really wondered how an enlisted man could purchase the coin. I see he was a volunteer officer. Very cool.

    --Jerry



  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I really wondered how an enlisted man could purchase the coin. I see he was a volunteer officer. Very cool. >>

    For one thing, rare coin prices have very strongly outpaced wage growth over the last 40 years. So even for people of relatively modest means -- say a solidly middle- to upper middle-class income -- the rarities were far closer to being attainable in the early 1960s than they are now.
  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    WOW!

    Thank you so much for posting that ANR writeup, Mark! Very good reading. image

    -Amanda
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    I'm a YN working on a type set!

    My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!

    Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>WOW!

    Thank you so much for posting that ANR writeup, Mark! Very good reading. image

    -Amanda >>

    You're most welcome Amanda. I had a sneaking suspicion you might enjoy that and almost directed my above post specifically at you.
  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349


    << <i>You're most welcome Amanda. I had a sneaking suspicion you might enjoy that and almost directed my above post specifically at you. >>



    I think I might like reading stories about cool coins best of all things Numismatic. image

    -Amanda
    image

    I'm a YN working on a type set!

    My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!

    Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • impressive. I wouldn't mind being the dealer that picked up that beauty
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course, this variety has a very interesting past. It was once believed to be a contemorary counterfeit. If it was made to pass in the 1790's it would have been artificially worn down to increase it's acceptability. Regardless of what the outcome of the debate was, the coin does not bear any stigma regarding its questionable birth. Copper collectors love it regardless!

    From The ANS Coinage of the Americas Conferrence 1996: Focuses on America's Large Cent

    In 1944, James G. Macallister said that he thought the strawberry leaf cent was a counterfeit, but thought it would be a good idea to get all examples together at the same time to compare them. Fifty years later, Anthony Terranova made it possible to get three of the four known in the same room, since the current owner of two varieties (including the unique Meader-Winsor-Crosby-Hall piece) brought them both to the conference.


    KLEEBERG ON THE NC-2 STRAWBERRY LEAF CENT

    For more information on the Strawberry Leaf cent, see the
    Proceedings of the 1996 American Numismatic Society
    Coinage of the America's Conference. The Sheldon NC-2
    variety is being discussed; the recent discovery of the
    Parmelee coin is Sheldon variety NC-3

    "ANS curator John Kleeberg re-examined the strawberry leaf
    cents of 1793. The term "strawberry leaf" was coined by David
    Proskey, when he wrote a series of articles on large cents for
    the Coin Collector's Journal. The unique strawberry leaf cent,
    with ONE CENT low, was first found in circulation by Mr.
    Meader of Providence, RI, in 1845. He sold it to Richard
    Winsor, and Winsor lent it to be photographed for the Levick
    plate. At the Winsor sale in 1895, Crosby bought it, and he
    sold it to Dr. Thomas Hall a few months later. A particular
    thrill for the audience was that the present owner of this piece
    brought it to the conference and displayed it. Kleeberg
    reviewed the evidence, and pointed out that there are so many
    differences in the lettering of the strawberry leaf cent that it is
    clear that its letters are hand-cut, not made with punches. It is
    not a product of the United States Mint. Kleeberg argued that
    it was a counterfeit made circa 1793-95. A lively discussion
    ensued, when some members of the audience, including R. W.
    Julian, suggested that the cent might not be a counterfeit, but a
    private pattern by a coiner who did not have access to punches."


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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    Thank you for the information, Rick. image

    I had wondered if anybody had ever thought it was a contemporary counterfeit before, mainly due to the description of the die work being 'cruder' than for other 1793 cents.

    The discussion of the edge devices in the ANR writeup posted by Mark above makes the arguement that the planchets did indeed pass through a Castaing machine at the Mint.

    This is all so very interesting! image

    Is that a Gallery Mint reproduction?

    -Amanda
    image

    I'm a YN working on a type set!

    My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!

    Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe so -- FACTORY TONED! image
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  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349


    << <i>I believe so -- FACTORY TONED! image >>



    image

    I guess that's NT. image

    -Amanda
    image

    I'm a YN working on a type set!

    My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!

    Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • When I saw this specimen surface, I could only speculate what it would bring at public auction. Thanks for the great thread.

    Garrow
  • BigE2BigE2 Posts: 1,037
    This coin is my all-time favorite!

    I first "discovered" it many years (15 maybe?) When a big-name (whom I cannot recall) collection was auctioned.
    Arrggh. This'll drive me nuts now. Who's collection was that?

    Anyhoo- I think this is the coolest coin ever. After reading all I can on it, I still think...who, why, when?

    Are there more to be found? (I think so)

    Is there an UNC one somewhere? (I think so)

    Thanks, Amanda!
    You've got my mind thinking again!!!
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I really wondered how an enlisted man could purchase the coin. I see he was a volunteer officer. Very cool. >>

    For one thing, rare coin prices have very strongly outpaced wage growth over the last 40 years. So even for people of relatively modest means -- say a solidly middle- to upper middle-class income -- the rarities were far closer to being attainable in the early 1960s than they are now. >>



    Yes but this was the forties and the price of the coin was more than a new luxury automobile. Of course in 04 it was 10x the price of a luxury automobile. --Jerry
  • Coinguy1---That is one of the most lucid reference works on any coin I've ever had the

    pleaure of reading. All I can say is there are at least 10 wealthy collectors who were, in my opinion, fools

    not to bid more aggresively on that coin---I understand that many guys only like MS68/9 eye appealing monsters;

    but I suggest this is the one coin ANY collector would want to see first, if visiting for dinner (at the bankimage
    morgannut2
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This coin is my all-time favorite!

    I first "discovered" it many years (15 maybe?) When a big-name (whom I cannot recall) collection was auctioned.
    Arrggh. This'll drive me nuts now. Who's collection was that?
    >>



    This would be the Floyd Starr collection. The sale containing the Strawberry Leafs was auctioned by Stack's back in June 1984 (half cents and large cents). He had both of the varieties.
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • BigE2BigE2 Posts: 1,037


    << <i>

    << <i>This coin is my all-time favorite!

    I first "discovered" it many years (15 maybe?) When a big-name (whom I cannot recall) collection was auctioned.
    Arrggh. This'll drive me nuts now. Who's collection was that?
    >>



    This would be the Floyd Starr collection. The sale containing the Strawberry Leafs was auctioned by Stack's back in June 1984 (half cents and large cents). He had both of the varieties. >>





    There ya go! Thanks!
  • My recollection of the article on the comparison of the edges of the strawberry leaf is slightly different From what I recall all the comparison was done at the ANS and all four of the strawberry leaf cents were together for the first time since 1793. The edges were compared to each other and were found to match but when they were compared to the 1793 wreaths in the ANS collection they did not match any of them and it was thought to be a confirmation that they were probably contemporary counterfeits. It wasn't until the next day that it was thought to compare them to the edges of the chain cents in the collection and they matched perfectly. That would place the strawberry leafs as the very first of the wreath cents which would also help to explain why the leaves differ from the reat of the wreath cents. The strawberry leaves was the original design but it was probably decided that it was easier to engrave the smooth leaves used on the rst of the wreath cents. (I seem to recall that it was determined that there were two different vine and bars edges used for the rest of the wreath cents as well and the edge groupings placed the emission sequence as something like NC-2, NC-3, S-5, S-9 and I don't remember the rest. That would also fit if DWH's S-5 had the same edge as his Strawberrys, and it may mean that S-5 comes with two different sets of edge dies.)
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    I always thought this coin should be referred as "The Rasberry Cent". The sprig looks more like a rasberry branch as opposed to a strawberry branch.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Conder,
    This is what they say, The smoking gun! The ANS report I posted said nothing of the outcome of the group examination.
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  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    Thank you for the information, Conder! image

    -Amanda
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    I'm a YN working on a type set!

    My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!

    Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Conder101 has reported this study accurately, the Strawberry Leaf cents have been confirmed to match the edge lettering of certain other 1793 cents. I have seen pics of all 4 coins and have seen 2 of them in person, and the one ANR sold is clearly the finest known. I also spoke with the owner of this coin the other day, and he continues to be happy that he purchased it. Even though it isn't MS-68 or MS-69!

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349
    I am glad he is still glad with the purchase.

    A coin like that doesn't need to be MS 69. image

    -Amanda
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    I'm a YN working on a type set!

    My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!

    Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • After this thread appeared, I went out to the mailbox where my strawberry plants reside to check the shape of the leaves!

    Yep. That's a strawberry leaf cent!

    Garrow
  • LeianaLeiana Posts: 4,349


    << <i>After this thread appeared, I went out to the mailbox where my strawberry plants reside to check the shape of the leaves!

    Yep. That's a strawberry leaf cent!

    Garrow >>



    Cool!

    -Amanda
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    I'm a YN working on a type set!

    My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!

    Proud member of the CUFYNA
  • dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭
    A very educational post. Thanks

    Now I'm hungry for strawberries.

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