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Pin marks on high grade copper to remove spots
shylock
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Artificial toning gets all the headlines, but a cruder form of coin alteration is worth looking out for.
Looks nice at a slightly enlarged image size, an 1872 PCGS MS65RB.
Up close the pin marks that flecked away spots appear.
Thanks to Lakesammmon for spotting this on a coin I owned, he is a savy collector.
Looks nice at a slightly enlarged image size, an 1872 PCGS MS65RB.
Up close the pin marks that flecked away spots appear.
Thanks to Lakesammmon for spotting this on a coin I owned, he is a savy collector.
Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
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<< <i>It's not from a rusted die? Could that be what PCGS thought it was? >>
I was wondering the same? How can you be sure it's pin marks and would that even get rid of the carbon?
It didn't get rid of all of the carbon. Just most of it. Remnants of it still exists in the first enlarged image.
Do you guys really think this PCGS 65RB 1872 IH was struck from a rusted reverse die? That would be news flash.
IH dies never sat long enough to rust. They were the workhorses of the 19th Century dies, more likely to crack
than to see a hint of rust.
<< <i>I was wondering the same? How can you be sure it's pin marks and would that even get rid of the carbon?
It didn't get rid of all of the carbon. Just most of it. Remnants of it still exists in the first enlarged image.
Do you guys really think this PCGS 65RB 1872 IH was struck from a rusted reverse die? That would be news flash.
IH dies never sat long enough to rust. They were the workhorses of the 19th Century dies, more likely to crack
than to see a hint of rust. >>
I had no clue as to the life of an IH die.
The first pic looks like it points to your C drive.
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<< <i>I was wondering the same? How can you be sure it's pin marks and would that even get rid of the carbon?
It didn't get rid of all of the carbon. Just most of it. Remnants of it still exists in the first enlarged image.
Do you guys really think this PCGS 65RB 1872 IH was struck from a rusted reverse die? That would be news flash.
IH dies never sat long enough to rust. They were the workhorses of the 19th Century dies, more likely to crack
than to see a hint of rust. >>
I had no clue as to the life of an IH die.
Ditto.
<< <i>I never knew folks did this. Nice to know.
The first pic looks like it points to your C drive.
There are far better ways to remove it but on low value coins this can be very fast and effective.
Perhaps this was "cleaned" many years ago. Surely no one would do it to a '72 anymore.
Perhaps this was "cleaned" many years ago. Surely no one would do it to a '72 anymore.
It's done all the time. The 1909-S PCGS 67RD that sold for $97,750 has a spot flecked off
under the nose in the obverse field.
No obvious pin mark was left, it was a great job.
Surely you jest.
If so, it's hard to imagine what explanation would suffice other than the coin being fooled with.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
i'LL SHARE A FEW WHEN i GET HOME FROM MY PICTURE ARCHIVES. dO YOU HAVE ANY MORE??
ps - nO, i'M NOT sTEWART.
do the diamonds in the ribbon look
too well defined compared to the overall
soft(er) strike?
I don't have any more, but I look forward to seeing more from your archives.
42/92
<< <i><< Surely no one would do it to a '72 anymore.>>
Shirley you jest.
I think that he is totally serious - and you shouldn't call him Shirley
Thanks for the education - I learned smoething new today
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