If you were going to place and ad in Coin World in opposition to some current ANA "activities&q

coinguy1 · October 5, 2006 12:23AM

Hypothetically, for the moment, at least

, what would you want to see written/included in such an ad?

Please feel free to speak in specifics or generalities, to be long-winded or short-winded and to state it here or send me a PM.

Again, hypothetically, if enough people could agree upon the ad's content and presentation, who might be interested in chipping in with a group of others for such an ad?

MadMonk · October 5, 2006 12:25AM

The ANA seems more dealer oriented than collector oriented.

goose3 · October 5, 2006 12:30AM

do they censor words??

Whatever it would say, it should be direct and polite while packing sort of a nasty bite to it.

I'm a LM and not too happy with the clowns running the place at this time.

I'll donate to your hypothetical cause if it should become unhypothetical.

Barry · October 5, 2006 1:02AM

How about a guest editorial? It's probably more read than an ad and better yet, it's free.

ziggy29 · October 5, 2006 1:06AM

Two words come to mind: accountability and transparency.

morgannut2 · October 5, 2006 1:12AM

I would point out that secret-privacy board policies have cost most Hewett Packard top people their jobs--and they may face years of jail time---OF coarse that won't scare an arrogant greedy, self dealing, lawyer---

RichieURich · October 5, 2006 2:00AM

Mark, I would be willing to contribute financially to this cause.

I am opposed to (1) removing duly elected Board of Governors members for flimsy reasons,
(2) requiring candidates for office to approved by the ANA, (3) secret meetings for any reason other than confidential personnel matters, (4) loyalty oaths for volunteers, and (5) the general "form over substance" view that seems to permeate through the organization.

Longacre · October 5, 2006 2:07AM

I like Barry's guest editorial idea. We can circulate drafts among the board members here, and then we would be more likely to get a response (probably in the form of another editorial from the ANA).

For kicks, we can also structure the letter as a declaration of independance, such as using "He..." and then outlining a grievance, etc.

morgannut2 · October 5, 2006 2:08AM

Coinguy Has my vote. I'll have to rejion though--refuse to give $ to croooks and liers! (IN MY OPINION)

Leiana · October 5, 2006 2:12AM

<< For kicks, we can also structure the letter as a declaration of independance, such as using "He..." and then outlining a grievance, etc.

>>

When in the Course of numismatic events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the coin world, the separate and equal station to which the Ethics of Numismatics entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

And so on...

-Amanda

Longacre · October 5, 2006 2:16AM

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<< For kicks, we can also structure the letter as a declaration of independance, such as using "He..." and then outlining a grievance, etc.

>>

When in the Course of numismatic events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the coin world, the separate and equal station to which the Ethics of Numismatics entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

And so on...

-Amanda >>

Exactly!

Steve · October 5, 2006 2:28AM

I am an ANA member and I have corresponded with the president in the past. Their problem is lack of communication. I agree with most people here that the ANA is going in the wrong direction. The problem is they are TRYING to do the right thing but they aren't able to communicate with the members effectively. Right now, on their website, www.money.org under communications and press release is a NEW message inviting members to write directly to the board. The perception might be that if enough members respond they might change what they are planning. The problem is that MOST members don't even know about this because the ANA has no immediate way to let people know. Everything they do is reaction, NOT pro active. We learn about things, NOT from the ANA, but from the media. THAT in my opinion is what is hurting right now. Steve

ziggy29 · October 5, 2006 2:31AM

<< The problem is they a TRYING to do the right thing but they aren't able to communicate with the members effectively. >>

What could possibly make them think that needing board/executive approval to run for election to the board is something the members would think is the "right thing?"

coinguy1 · October 5, 2006 2:35AM

<< Right now, on their website, www.money.org under communications and press release is a NEW message inviting members to write directly to the board>>

Perhaps a number of ANA members would care to put their comments here and we could forward this thread to the ANA?

RichieURich · October 5, 2006 2:40AM

Mark, I am an ANA member and I stand by my comments earlier in this thread. If you want to forward the thread to the ANA, I have no objection whatsoever.

Mark · October 5, 2006 4:31AM

Re the ANA's lack of communications: I see no earthly reason why the ANA couldn't post the proposed by-law changes prominently on its website. I have looked all over the website and cannot find it. I have let my copies of Numismatist pile up at home, so I guess I have to look through them to see if the proposed changes have been printed somewhere. Personally, I think it's boarderline incompetence that neglects to post and publicize important documents such as this.

Mark

Steve · October 5, 2006 4:45AM

Mark,
That's what burns me up too. We read about proposed changes but when you go to the web site you have to really HUNT to find anything about anything. The only write-up I am aware of is listed under the August board meeting data. Check press releases and board of governors under COMMUNICATIONS. After awhile, if you are persitant enough, you may find out what they are proposing. It is NOT easy unless you really work at it. Good luck. Steve

dorancoins · October 5, 2006 1:59PM

<< Two words come to mind: accountability and transparency. >>

100%

dorancoins · October 5, 2006 2:02PM

<< How about a guest editorial? It's probably more read than an ad and better yet, it's free. >>

True - and might I add the four words that I have been quoted on and off the record as saying - THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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