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Liberty, Washington Fractional Gold Copy

NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
"You're at liberty here", said Gus Nelson to a group of miners at his new cabin around 1870, telling them to sit anywhere they want for the meeting. The miners selected "Liberty" as the name of their new town. The area has been mined ever since, with the largest nugget recorded in the state of Washington found here at 67 ounces. This is also one of the few places worldwide to have wire gold, the oldtimers say one of only two areas in the world to have the gold in its beautiful crystalline form.

I have a gold token purchased a few years ago in octagonal shape, 9.5 mm in diameter, similar in size to 25 Cent California Fractional Gold. It is cast gold, with a seam on the edge. The token is listed as rare in the Washington State Token book, without a source listed. I went to Liberty last week to find out more about the token. I tracked down the town historian, who said he has seen only one, and does not know of the origin of the token.

It is possible the tokens were made for a centennial celebration or souvenirs, but it is odd that more oldtimers in the area do not know of them. If anyone has seen one, or has seen a similar looking Cal Fractional gold copy with the same pattern, let me know.

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Liberty wire gold
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An old abandoned backhoe. Liberty has about 20-30 full time residents, with many old mining cabins in the area.
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Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver

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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat token and story.
    I do like Cal gold pieces and have gone through many. I've never see this guy though....
    Paul
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat token.
  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Top 20 Type Set 1792 to present

    Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set

    successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Proofcollection, Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)

  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if anyone knows this token it will be mike locke
    mike's site
    Top 20 Type Set 1792 to present

    Top 10 Cal Fractional Type Set

    successful BST with Ankurj, BigAl, Bullsitter, CommemKing, DCW(7), Downtown1974, Elmerfusterpuck, Joelewis, Mach1ne, Minuteman810430, Modcrewman, Nankraut, Nederveit2, Philographer(5), Proofcollection, Realgator, Silverpop, SurfinxHI, TomB and Yorkshireman(3)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,903 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The obverse of that Indian token looks like a reverse proof.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • There are two varieties of this token. One, without a doubt is gold, although I'm not sure if it's actually 24k. (doubtful). The second, which is what you have always has weak centers, and is either gold plated over a copper core or very low karat core(like 4k). The Indian head style is a copy of M.E. Hart's Indian head that he used on gold tokens in the early 1900's. His gold tokens are most known for the famous Coins of the Golden West set made for the 1915 Pan Pac expo of which few remain. Anyway, it's still a mystery who made the Liberty, Wash tokens.
    Pictured below are the two varieties of this token, as well as M.E. Hart's gold Washington tokens. My example of your token has no plating left.
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    edit: spelling
    Collector of Fractional Gold; gold tokens from Canada, California, Alaska & other states; gold so-called dollars, and other oddball stuff.
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    eureka,
    Very interesting info & tokens.
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    eureka - Thank you very much for taking the time to post the information. The token I have is listed and photographed on Mike Locke's site (thanks for the link calgold!). I will forward this info to the person who is compiling the history of Liberty, he was also very interested in finding out more about the Liberty, Wash token.

    With the head of the first token matching the M.E. Hart Washington tokens, these could possibly have been varieties made by M.E. Hart, as an octagonal Alaskan Indian token is on a price list on the Locke site.
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver

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