Proof Submission Question

Apache6OIF1 · September 21, 2006 11:55AM

Hello! Although I browse the forum daily, this is my first post! I have kind of a newbie question that I need the advice of some old pros on. I recently submitted my first proof coin for grading, taking every precaution as I removed it from its original mint capsule. It was a beautiful 2001 Buffalo Proof...taking advantage of the quarterly special! I would have bet anything it would grade PR69. Anyway, when I got it back it was graded PR67 DCAM. I could clearly see where at some point in the journey a light film and a couple of milk spots had developed. I want to submit proofs for grading, but not at the cost of going from 69 to 67. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

GarryOwen!

Leiana · September 21, 2006 11:58AM

I believe I have read that flips with PVC in them plus summer heat can do that to proof coins. That's a bummer.

-Amanda

xbob · September 21, 2006 12:00PM

Submit it without removing it from the capsule. You can do that without worry. Even so, be sure to use Saflips as well for any submissions.

And Welcome!!

edit to add: You can send it to NCS for a bath and re-grading at NGC. You'll probably get your PR69.

Apache6OIF1 · September 21, 2006 12:05PM

Thank you both. I took the submission instructions too literally and assumed everything had to be in a flip. Sending it in the original capsule and letting the pros remove it made WAY too much sense to me. Thanks again.

GarryOwen!

Russ · September 21, 2006 12:09PM

<< <i>I could clearly see where at some point in the journey a light film and a couple of milk spots had developed. >>

You submitted it in a bad flip, or bad polybag. Use ONLY ET Kointainer SAFLIPS™ for submitting proofs, and do NOT use polybags. Also, even if you submit in the capsule, it still must be inserted in a flip - and, even in the capsule a bad flip can still cause problems.

Russ, NCNE

Apache6OIF1 · September 21, 2006 12:13PM

Yep. I bought a pack of 100 flips at the Baltimore Coin Show. I should have known by the price that they were junk. I will order some of the good ones tonight. Thanks!

GarryOwen!

Apache6OIF1 · September 21, 2006 12:27PM

One follow-up question. What about a proof set? Can it be sent in and PCGS will break it apart to grade the individual coins? Thanks!

xbob · September 21, 2006 9:23PM

<< <i>One follow-up question. What about a proof set? Can it be sent in and PCGS will break it apart to grade the individual coins? Thanks! >>

Call customer service about that one (unless someone follows me with an actual answer). They may charge an extra $1 per coin or something but I think you can do it.

I've only done something similar when I submitted a Millennium coin & currency set. They needed it in the original package to confirm the coins came form that set. They removed the coins from the set at PCGS. Obvoiusly there's no need to prove what proof coins are, but I understand the desire not to break them out and risk damage. Let us know what their answer is.

IF they are modern proofs, keep in mind that the fees may outweigh the value. You could probably buy PR69 DCAM sets from dealers or eBay for less than it will cost you to have your own submitted + the registered mail both ways.

kcnovice · September 21, 2006 10:09PM

"One follow-up question. What about a proof set? Can it be sent in and PCGS
will break it apart to grade the individual coins? Thanks! "

A few months ago I sent a proof set in for my grandson's birth year, still in original 5 coin capsule,
no extra fee-no problem- all 69dcams.

Apache6OIF1 · September 22, 2006 2:47AM

Hey, thanks. That is great info.

GarryOwen!

Russ · September 22, 2006 3:05AM

When you submit a proof set intact, you must have all the coins in the set graded.

Russ, NCNE

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