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One of my favorite rips was a coupla large size national bank notes I bought from another dealer at a show for around $1000. I sent them to CGA and they came back CGA 65 and CGA 66 respectively (this was around 1998). I listed them on ebay and after negotiating got $3,100 for them (I was initially asking $3500). Now in my view this was certainly a more accrate value of their worth. Do you think the dealer I bought them from got ripped? Or the buyer? I frankly think there was no hanky panky here at all just good buy low sell high - this is what the coin biz is all about (and what makes fun and games on the bourse exciting - nothing like a good rip!). BTW unless you have some Gem Large Size Nationals to sell me at bid, do not make a fool of yourself by quoting greensheet.

Another time a teenage kid came up to my table at a show where retail had been really slow with a raw 1936 Texas PDS set - they looked slimy in their PVS flips and needed a dip. I bought them at blue book MS 60, dipped them and sent them to Teletrade raw coin service (no grading fees upfront). They all made PCGS MS 65 and I made money on the deal. Another deal I have fond memories of. You just never know what kinda goodies will be walking up to the table.

What about you - have you gotten some really good rips lately? Lets hear your stories and I will share some more of mine with you.

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    You should give us your eBay ID. There are lots of regular buyers here.

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>You should give us your eBay ID. There are lots of regular buyers here.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Russ, Stop participating in his fantasy life. He doesn't have an eBay ID.
    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was looking for some banknotes like that....willing to pay $3600! Please give your ebay ID so I can make sure not to miss out on such a great deal next time.

    Thanks

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭
    You're not welcome on this forum, Derek. To blindly attack someone of such impeccable character as Coinguy1 (while not even having the guts to ID yourself) shows your lack of any value here.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You're not welcome on this forum, Derek. >>



    Come now, every circus needs a clown. image

    Russ, NCNE
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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought for sure this would be a thread about Derek's (numismatic) verbal flatulence.
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    HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,465 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One of my favorite rips was a coupla large size national bank notes I bought from another dealer at a show for around $1000. I sent them to CGA and they came back CGA 65 and CGA 66 respectively (this was around 1998). I listed them on ebay and after negotiating got $3,100 for them (I was initially asking $3500). Now in my view this was certainly a more accrate value of their worth. Do you think the dealer I bought them from got ripped? Or the buyer? I frankly think there was no rip here at all just good buy low sell high - this is what the coin biz is all about (and what makes fun and games on the bourse exciting). BTW unless you have some to sell me, do not make a fool of yourself by quoting greensheet.

    What about you - have you gotten some really good rips lately? Lets hear your stories and I will share some more of mine with you. >>




    sounds OT, take this to the currency forum !
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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A waste of skin. But funny in a trollish way.
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    I could care less what a bottomfeeder like you thinks Rick and as far as my opinion of Con Guy I will say what I please so go PVC off.
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    StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You're not welcome on this forum, Derek. To blindly attack someone of such impeccable character as Coinguy1 (while not even having the guts to ID yourself) shows your lack of any value here. >>



    I went back through some of his posts, looks like he's attacked a dozen or so respected members around here.

    His real class showed through when a YN asked an innocent question titled I feel dumb for asking this - and his response is "You are". He's not welcome in my book.

    I'd rather listen to the other idiot 96eagle - at least he only stalks Russ image
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    Genius !
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    What a tool !

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I'm really curious which gutless weasel forum member set up this alt id.

    Russ, NCNE
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    RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I could care less what a bottomfeeder like you thinks Rick and as far as my opinion of Con Guy I will say what I please so go PVC off. >>



    I knew you cared!! image
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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One of my favorite rips was a coupla large size national bank notes I bought from another dealer at a show for around $1000. I sent them to CGA and they came back CGA 65 and CGA 66 respectively (this was around 1998). I listed them on ebay and after negotiating got $3,100 for them (I was initially asking $3500). Now in my view this was certainly a more accrate value of their worth. Do you think the dealer I bought them from got ripped? Or the buyer? I frankly think there was no hanky panky here at all just good buy low sell high - this is what the coin biz is all about (and what makes fun and games on the bourse exciting - nothing like a good rip!). BTW unless you have some Gem Large Size Nationals to sell me at bid, do not make a fool of yourself by quoting greensheet.

    Another time a teenage kid came up to my table at a show where retail had been really slow with a raw 1936 Texas PDS set - they looked slimy in their PVS flips and needed a dip. I bought them at blue book MS 60, dipped them and sent them to Teletrade raw coin service (no grading fees upfront). They all made PCGS MS 65 and I made money on the deal. Another deal I have fond memories of. You just never know what kinda goodies will be walking up to the table.

    What about you - have you gotten some really good rips lately? Lets hear your stories and I will share some more of mine with you. >>





    .....would have bought the bag of silver and winked at the pig. image
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I'm really curious which gutless weasel forum member set up this alt id.

    Please. Let's not give weasels a bad name...... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,094 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>You're not welcome on this forum, Derek. >>



    Come now, every circus needs a clown. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Every Village needs and IDIOT........

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    TorinoCobra71

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    Don't know anything about this Derek dude,

    BUT

    here's my

    RIP of The Week - Die#1, Type-1, FS-014

    & Rip of The Millenium! image
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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    This guy is Evolution gone bad !

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    Oh - I see the boo birds have come in. Whats wrong guys did u get ripped recently LOL?
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    derek..


    for the last time.. burger king called and you are late for work again.. put on your clearasil and hurry
    when judgement day comes..
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    Just curious as to why you have such a bad attitude ?

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh - I see the boo birds have come in. >>



    Interesting. Laura frequently uses the term boo birds. image

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>

    << <i>Oh - I see the boo birds have come in. >>



    Interesting. Laura frequently uses the term boo birds. image

    Russ, NCNE >>




    see if laura and derek are ever signed on at the same time russ.. derek will be bammed on monday regardless
    when judgement day comes..
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    << <i>Oh - I see the boo birds have come in. Whats wrong guys did u get ripped recently LOL? >>




    boo birds ?

    interesting phrase image


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    wowsier

    I almost thought smoeone had opened the OF again

    currency has its own forum, take the nonsense over there.

    I cant believe I went off on mark for giving you a hard time a few weeks back.

    I wont ever question his actions again
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    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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    << <i>

    << <i>Oh - I see the boo birds have come in. >>



    Interesting. Laura frequently uses the term boo birds. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Geez Russ, you read my mind! Frequently split personalities can be of different sexes!

    What do you think, Mr. Bigglesworth?
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    a little off topic, but how do i get the pic that i want into my avatar box ?
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Go to the profile box then to the bottom of the page.
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    Wow, this sounds like something that belonged in that other forum
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    << <i>Wow, this sounds like something that belonged in that other forum >>


    No, this is definitely on topic. Just because this philistine is to numismatics what Andrew Dice Clay is to stand up comedy is no reason to write off his monumental contributions to this message board.
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    I like traveling the show circuit- lots of fun and games. What a lot of u don't realize is how you are being ripped by the big dealers and their overgraded big ticket coins. Maybe some of u ran across my table at Long Beach, we exchanged pleasantries, I glady took your money and no one knew who I really was LOL. thanks for the business guys. Long Beach was good for me. I think the person who bought a nice 65 slightly better date saint from me for $3500 was one of you LOL - it had been in a 64 holder for sometime but finally made 65 on the 7th submission a change in market val from $900 to $3500 - of course did not tell him that.....

    One of my fav rips was a $10 nice au lib I got for $180 recently. On the sell side I sold a note which I had 17 cents in for $19 - it was fairly priced as CV was $20. I had bought a pack of 100 earlier at the show for $17 from a dealer blowing out the stuff. I try to make a big margin on the cheap stuff and sell nice slabs at least 20% above CDN Ask fairly priced of course. At one show a guy showed his kid a polished circ common morgan dollar in my raw coin stock - I guess he was trying to show off to the kid that he could tell a cleaned coin - i said nothing. At the next show ironically enough a gal bought it for $15 for her kids xmas along with some junk coins I had $25 in for $50. slabs were not selling well but I did well with junk and moving the polished dollar (i had zero in it was part of an estate deal - I value the crap coins at zero when making an offer) sort of made my day too to sell it. Another guy came up with some modern slabs to sell - got them at 40% of pcgs retail. I also sold a nice MS 66 slabbed world coin I had $35 in for $75 (I had bought it from Teletrade). CV was $10 (of course thats ms 60) but at the time I thought I way overpaid for it - got caught in the passion of bidding. So sometimes the coin u think has zero chance of selling just mite sell ROFLMAO.

    tell me about some of your rips - its all in the art of how the rip is done don't u agree?
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    stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I like traveling the show circuit- lots of fun and games. What a lot of u don't realize is how you are being ripped by the big dealers and their overgraded big ticket coins. Maybe some of u ran across my table at Long Beach, we exchanged pleasantries, I glady took your money and no one knew who I really was LOL. thanks for the business guys. Long Beach was good for me. I think the person who bought a nice 65 slightly better date saint from me for $3500 was one of you LOL - it had been in a 64 holder for sometime but finally made 65 on the 7th submission a change in market val from $900 to $3500 - of course did not tell him that.....

    One of my fav rips was a $10 nice au lib I got for $180 recently. On the sell side I sold a note which I had 17 cents in for $19 - it was fairly priced as CV was $20. I had bought a pack of 100 earlier at the show for $17 from a dealer blowing out the stuff. I try to make a big margin on the cheap stuff and sell nice slabs at least 20% above CDN Ask fairly priced of course. At one show a guy showed his kid a polished circ common morgan dollar in my raw coin stock - I guess he was trying to show off to the kid that he could tell a cleaned coin - i said nothing. At the next show ironically enough a gal bought it for $15 for her kids xmas along with some junk coins I had $25 in for $50. slabs were not selling well but I did well with junk and moving the polished dollar (i had zero in it was part of an estate deal - I value the crap coins at zero when making an offer) sort of made my day too to sell it. Another guy came up with some modern slabs to sell - got them at 40% of pcgs retail. I also sold a nice MS 66 slabbed world coin I had $35 in for $75 (I had bought it from Teletrade). CV was $10 (of course thats ms 60) but at the time I thought I way overpaid for it - got caught in the passion of bidding. So sometimes the coin u think has zero chance of selling just mite sell ROFLMAO.

    tell me about some of your rips - its all in the art of how the rip is done don't u agree? >>



    You are the best coin dealer ever.
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    DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    It's entertaining to have someone on the forums that in almost every post challenges "taboo".

    I'm curious when people who doctor photos on these forums and post them are going to be under fire.

    Cough.

    -Daniel
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

    -Aristotle

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    -Horace
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    << <i>I could care less.... >>



    You could? So you do care to an extent.
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    1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Oh - I see the boo birds have come in. >>



    Interesting. Laura frequently uses the term boo birds. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Note the writing style, grammar and punctuation; they seem to be a match as well.

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    good job - the currency market has been booming, so that is about right - you didn't rip the seller

    also you have to figure in your cost for CGA



    have you been to the currency forum?




    $1000 properly placed in the coin market 10 years ago could be worth 5000-10000 today




    if you could have done that in 2 days or 2 weeks, than that would be a rip
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the sell side I sold a note which I had 17 cents in for $19 - it was fairly priced as CV was $20. I had bought a pack of 100 earlier at the show for $17 from a dealer blowing out the stuff. I try to make a big margin on the cheap stuff and sell nice slabs at least 20% above CDN Ask fairly priced of course. At one show a guy showed his kid a polished circ common morgan dollar in my raw coin stock - I guess he was trying to show off to the kid that he could tell a cleaned coin - i said nothing. At the next show ironically enough a gal bought it for $15 for her kids xmas along with some junk coins I had $25 in for $50. slabs were not selling well but I did well with junk and moving the polished dollar (i had zero in it was part of an estate deal - I value the crap coins at zero when making an offer) sort of made my day too to sell it. Another guy came up with some modern slabs to sell - got them at 40% of pcgs retail. I also sold a nice MS 66 slabbed world coin I had $35 in for $75

    Let's see: $18 plus $25 plus $40 equals $83. That's a lot of work and trash-talking for $83. Bravo!
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could care less what a bottomfeeder like you thinks Rick and as far as my opinion of Con Guy I will say what I please so go PVC off.

    why the penchant for calling some of the best dealers/members/experts in their respective fields bottom-feeders??
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Oh - I see the boo birds have come in. >>



    Interesting. Laura frequently uses the term boo birds. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Couldn't be Laura's Alt ID. Derek doesn't misspell enough words. image


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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dealer Derek's ripping "exploits" would be a joke for a major dealer on the coin circuit. He is kidding right? Making $83? Sending in that Saint 7X must have been a career of submissions for him! He probably had a dealer mentor who advised him to keep sending it back. There is no such thing as ripping a dealer. Dealers should know better as to what a coin is worth. If you don't and undersell it by a mile, your tough luck. It's part of the game. When you offer a kid 20c on the dollar for their coins, then that's a different story.
    That's criminal, bordering on fraud, and ripping the public.

    Some of my local dealers make the rounds and buy stuff from other dealers all the time at 10c on the dollar. The sellers were just dumb. Buying $2,000 coins for $500 from other dealers is common place.

    For nearly 20 years of being on the "coin circuit," and these are the memborable rips for Dealer Derek, you almost have to laugh.
    image Real dealers do that kind of stuff to other dealers week in and week out. DD's "exploits" are what a major dealer would do in a week's or month's time. But most don't do it to the public, they do it amongst themselves. If you offer something for way too little, so be it. Now we want to hear about his major losses...and his "collection" of 200 Saints.

    roadrunner


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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Another guy came up with some modern slabs to sell - got them at 40% of pcgs retail. >>



    You got screwed. image

    Russ, NCNE
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i><< Another guy came up with some modern slabs to sell - got them at 40% of pcgs retail. >>

    You got screwed. image >>


    I was thinking the same thing.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
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    Is this the first post on this board about somebody ripping a novice?

    Gee, I'd think in this group at least one person would have come here bragging about a rip before now.


    Is there a doctor in the house?
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    Is it a rip if I offer the coin at a live auction, make no statement about grade (I never give my opinion), and someone pays 3 times what its worth?
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    Wonder if the high prices realized on these modern coins in 70 are a rip
    You can't win an arguement with a crazy.

    Parker
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