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I was just going through a roll of nickels I got a my bank and I came across this nickel with 2 heads. One side has the date 2002P and the other side is 1988D could someone tell me if this is the Real McCoy and if so could it have a value more than 5 cents. Thank you.
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    Look at the edge for a seam. These are more often than not contrived fantasy pieces. Especially with this one being two different dates, well, I can't really see how that would be made in the mint.

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    ledzep87ledzep87 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    It is fake.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    totally fake, some people call them "magician's coins" and they are generally worthless except some people like them as oddity-type conversation pieces.

    If you do a lot of coin flipping, you might want to hold on to the coin.
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    If I had a nickel every time I was e-mailed about a two headed nickel, I'd have a handfull of nickels image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can see the seam inside the rim on the 2002 side.

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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭
    From your pics it's easy to see that the reverse of the 88 was hollowed-out and the 02 was shaved down to fit in it. Nice magician's coin!
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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    As others have suggested, your coin is almost certainly a 'magician's coin', or fake. It was made as a novelty, outside of the mint, from two real Jefferson nickels. I have found a couple of these in circulation over the years, including examples with two obverses, and with two reverses.

    It is unlikely that you will see a seam on the edge, if it was made like the others I have seen. Rather, if you look closely just inside the rim on one side or the other, you will see a narrow, almost imperceptible seam running fully around the coin where one nickel was hollowed out like a pie plate and the entire reverse removed. For the second coin, the rim was removed, and the reverse was ground off, much like the process of making a love token, leaving only the obverse. This thin, one-sided obverse was placed inside the other hollowed out obverse, making a double sided obverse coin. A lot of work for very little reward, but that is how the examples that I have seen were made. I believe these were made as 'magician's coins', for tricks and to win bar bets, and not as supposed mint errors.
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    these are very common post-mint products, worth a few cents

    technically, it is'nt a "fake", because it is not designed to impersonate a circulating coin. it's a "real" magician's coin.

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    bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    Quite a few machinists can create these coins. Some machinists work with 10,000 of an inch tolerances! Some do it as a test of their skill!!! I use to be a machinist over 20 years ago!
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    Still cool to find...congrats image
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    Thanks everyone, I can see around the rim area where it has been tampered with. If I knew what I was looking for I would have caught it, who ever did this did a rotten job.
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    i think it's real.

    gotta be some new variety nickel vam thingy.

    you should submit it for grading.


    know what you don't know.

    hi, i'm tom.

    i do not doctor coins like some who post in here.

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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i think it's real.
    gotta be some new variety nickel vam thingy.
    you should submit it for grading. >>



    Comments like these are what lead people to believe they have something they do not and also helps them waste money. It is obvious by the pictures that the two coins were tampered with.
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    and it's obvious my comments were of the OF variety and not to be taken seriously.

    if someone is actually dumb enough to submit it based on my comments...

    well a fool and his money.....
    know what you don't know.

    hi, i'm tom.

    i do not doctor coins like some who post in here.

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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Funny this would post today. I just picked-up a two headed Walker and a two-tailed Walker. Neat coins, but certainly made in a similar fashion.
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    that is funny.
    know what you don't know.

    hi, i'm tom.

    i do not doctor coins like some who post in here.

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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As others have suggested, your coin is almost certainly a 'magician's coin', or fake. It was made as a novelty, outside of the mint, from two real Jefferson nickels. I have found a couple of these in circulation over the years, including examples with two obverses, and with two reverses.

    It is unlikely that you will see a seam on the edge, if it was made like the others I have seen. Rather, if you look closely just inside the rim on one side or the other, you will see a narrow, almost imperceptible seam running fully around the coin where one nickel was hollowed out like a pie plate and the entire reverse removed. For the second coin, the rim was removed, and the reverse was ground off, much like the process of making a love token, leaving only the obverse. This thin, one-sided obverse was placed inside the other hollowed out obverse, making a double sided obverse coin. A lot of work for very little reward, but that is how the examples that I have seen were made. I believe these were made as 'magician's coins', for tricks and to win bar bets, and not as supposed mint errors. >>



    MrHalfDime, have you ever seen a double sided obverse or reverse half dime?

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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    "MrHalfDime, have you ever seen a double sided obverse or reverse half dime?"

    I can honestly say that I have not. In fact, errors of any description for half dimes are few and far between. I have seen a major off-center strike 1857 half dime that sold for a very large sum, due in part to the absolute rarity of errors in that series. I have seen the (unique?) 1859 Liberty Seated half dime error that is a half dime on one side and an Indian Cent on the other, presumably genuine. I have been told of a half dime blank planchet, but that would seem to be one of the easier errors to fake. But I have never seen a double sided obverse or reverse half dime, if one indeed exists. Why, do you have one?

    This brings to mind the long debated question as to whether obverse dies and reverse dies had different shaped or keyed shanks, so that they could not fit into the press in the wrong (hammer/anvil) position.

    For some reason, this also brings to mind the story of how myself and a co-conspirator (who shall remain nameless) tried unsuccessfully to get one of the major slabbing services at a major coin show to slab two sandwiched Capped Bust half dimes together in one slab, in effect creating a new die marriage, to present to our friend Russ Logan for his learned comments. Not one of the major slabbing services would participate in our little practical joke, despite our pleas and promises to return the slab promptly to their table for 'crack-out' once our little practical joke was finished. I would have loved to see the look on Russ' face when we presented him with this puzzling 'new die marriage'. It is unlikely that he would have been fooled for long, but it would have been fun, nonetheless.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For some reason, this also brings to mind the story of how myself and a co-conspirator (who shall remain nameless) tried unsuccessfully to get one of the major slabbing services at a major coin show to slab two sandwiched Capped Bust half dimes together in one slab, in effect creating a new die marriage, to present to our friend Russ Logan for his learned comments >>



    Don't all bust coin stories involve a certain dealer in Cincinnatti? image
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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    I ain't sayin' nothin'.
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My theory of half dime stories remains true! Every single one them I tell you! LOL
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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>and it's obvious my comments were of the OF variety and not to be taken seriously.
    if someone is actually dumb enough to submit it based on my comments...
    well a fool and his money..... >>



    I understand that 100 percent and I realize you were only joking. However, the OP is VERY new to coins and I do not want him/her to be misled. I was not intending anything negative towards you. image
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    jharjhar Posts: 1,126
    Who let someone fromCoin Club in here???!!!!

    Just kidding kid!! But the website I listed is notorious for the two-headed/two-tailed coin posts.

    BTW It's a real coin but only worth a nickel
    J'har
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    << <i>Who let someone fromCoin Club in here???!!!!

    Just kidding kid!! But the website I listed is notorious for the two-headed/two-tailed coin posts >>


    Hey, I've posted there for years. But you are right about the number of two headed coin posts there. I once kept count of all of them for a year and it turned out there was a two headed/two tailed coin question asked on there on average once every 3.5 days.

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