GUESS the grade of the Saint....

saintguru · September 1, 2006 10:49AM

Russ · September 1, 2006 10:54AM

MS64.

Russ, NCNE

Louis · September 1, 2006 10:55AM

<< MS64.

Russ, NCNE >>

I'll go along with Russ on this one.

Louis · September 1, 2006 10:56AM

I like the color.

tggr · September 1, 2006 10:56AM

62

Russ · September 1, 2006 10:57AM

<< I'll go along with Russ on this one. >>

Bad idea.

Russ, NCNE

clw54 · September 1, 2006 10:59AM

62

MrKelso · September 1, 2006 11:06AM

63

Edited to add: After viewing it on a 2nd monitor i will up my bid to 65 now i can see some luster.

123cents · September 1, 2006 11:09AM

MS-63.

Connecticoin · September 1, 2006 11:11AM

66

saintguru · September 1, 2006 11:17AM

this pic and thread is a BUST. The coin is a MS65 but the magnification makes it look pretty weak. It's MUCH nicer regular size.

originalisbest · September 1, 2006 11:24AM

Dagnabbit! I was gonna say "64+" - seriously!

messydesk · September 1, 2006 11:49AM

65. Not enough assault and battery for 64, but a handful of ticks on both sides keep it clear of 66. Nice luster and interesting reverse color.

DickyBetz · September 1, 2006 11:52AM

Nice toning. MS64-

TraderGio · September 1, 2006 11:57AM

ms64

elwood · September 1, 2006 12:10PM

<< this pic and thread is a BUST. The coin is a MS65 but the magnification makes it look pretty weak. >>

What about the smashed nose/face and the gouge on the eagles leg?

jpkinla · September 1, 2006 2:43PM

I do like the toning (is this word still allowed on the forum?).....Nice looking MS65!

Leiana · September 1, 2006 2:48PM

64. I think.

-Amanda

roadrunner · September 1, 2006 2:53PM

65. The photos were great and the coin's character came through.
I don't know where the 62's come from other than what looks to be rub on the knee. But the coin is wonderful and appears 66. I just figured a 65 since most of your selections are graded very tough.

roadrunner

bestclser1 · September 1, 2006 4:04PM

65 and great color.

Type2 · September 1, 2006 4:09PM

ms-64

saintguru · September 2, 2006 1:06AM

I never quite get it when some of you keep guessing WRONG after the grade has been revealed! :rofl:

Thanks for those who were able to see "through" the photography. I love the color. it adds allure to the coin, I have seen technically nicer 1912's but that was my deciding factor to keep this one.

saintguru · September 2, 2006 1:11AM

<< 

<< this pic and thread is a BUST. The coin is a MS65 but the magnification makes it look pretty weak. >>

What about the smashed nose/face and the gouge on the eagles leg? >>

elwood...the toughest grader on the board!!

You're gonna find that the majority of Saints in just about every grade have some "punchinnanose".

You must remember that even gold alloy is much softer than any other coinage, and it only takes a small tap from another coin to damage that tiny probiscus and it's surroundings. Unlike most coins, her nose sticks straight out in the relief. I can't think of another design that has a full frontal honker like hers. It's a target for hits and you'll see them on MS66's frequently. The Wells Fargo MS69 (HAH!) that sold recently had a smashed nose.

Stuart · September 2, 2006 1:15AM

I was going to guess MS-64, so I suppose that I am in agreement with SaintGuru since he already mentioned that the large photo accentuates the contact marks making the coin appear to look worse in the photo thatn it does in hand.

HighRelief · September 2, 2006 1:16AM

It is amazing to me that you were able to get a MS65 grade out of this one. I just do not see it.

saintguru · September 2, 2006 1:27AM

You would if you actually SAW it. It's not a slider, I assure you. The obverse is waaaay too grainy in the photo.

Hows this?

Not much better...

It's the pic.

karpman9 · September 2, 2006 1:40AM

<< I never quite get it when some of you keep guessing WRONG after the grade has been revealed! :rofl: >>

I'll take a stab, AU50?

Seriously though, I could not agree more with your comment about the lady with the broken nose!

I feel bad for her. Sometimes she has a fat lip too, which looks really painful.

Best regards,

robertpr · September 2, 2006 1:42AM

Jay, don't you usually post these on the Open Forum?

roadrunner · September 2, 2006 2:03AM

That's what makes coins a market. As long as the majority of people disagree on what the coin's grade is....opportunity abounds.
And I like that. Gold is not graded like silver coins of similar size.
Many more marks are accepted. Just the way it is.

roadrunner

dragon · September 2, 2006 2:35AM

I would guess mid-range MS65

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