LIBERTY no more on the new dollar coins

xbob · August 29, 2006 5:11AM

Interesting CW article today mentions that the word "LIBERTY" will NOT be on the new presidential dollars.

"E Pluribus Unum" and "In God We Trust" will remain but be set incuse into the coins edge.

I just thought that was interesting for those who missed it.

Personally I think they should ditch the "In God" part. I'm not opposed to it but weighed against "Liberty", I prefer "Liberty" as traditional American coinage lettering. Also, "Liberty" takes up less space when design is concerned.

123cents · August 29, 2006 5:13AM

Didn't know that. Thanks Bob.

Craton · August 29, 2006 5:13AM

I agree. LIBERTY should have stayed. Will be intersteing to see a modern letter edged coin.

carl · August 29, 2006 5:18AM

Was that published anywhere else?

notwilight · August 29, 2006 5:21AM

<< Was that published anywhere else? >>

What? you don't subscribe to coin world? Neither to I. Anybody got a link? Thanks, Jerry

lkenefic · August 29, 2006 5:24AM

wow...seems a shame to ditch "Liberty"...a sign of the times perhaps.

LanLord · August 29, 2006 5:37AM

<<Personally I think they should ditch the "In God" part. I'm not opposed to it but weighed against "Liberty", I prefer "Liberty" as traditional American coinage lettering. Also, "Liberty" takes up less space when design is concerned. >>
But why would we just have "We Trust" floating around on our coins?

Weiss · August 29, 2006 5:40AM

Guess the lefties were right about the Bush administration

Drizzt · August 29, 2006 5:42AM

Are these presidential dollars supposed to replace the sac's?

Or are they like a commemorative series

shirohniichan · August 29, 2006 5:43AM

I'd understand ditching LIBERTY on the FDR coin, but not on the whole series.

They cram a bunch of unnecessary junk onto state quaters, so why can't they figure out how to keep LIBERTY on the coins?

Kip · August 29, 2006 5:44AM

<< wow...seems a shame to ditch "Liberty"...a sign of the times perhaps. >>

Hell, why not? Bush has!

intocoins · August 29, 2006 5:51AM

Its my understanding that they ( the mint) will continue to make sacs also. I think its terrible that they would get rid of "LIBERTY" but keep "E PLURIBUS UNUM"- translated out of many we are one. Does that really need to be on our Coinage? I bet if you did a poll with the average Joe they would not even know what "E PLURIBUS UNUM" meant..

Longacre · August 29, 2006 5:53AM

I have not received a CW in about three weeks.

xbob · August 29, 2006 5:58AM

<< Are these presidential dollars supposed to replace the sac's?

Or are they like a commemorative series >>

The Sacs are still going to be made. The presidential dollars are supposed to jump start dollar coin circulation....again....

They are going to promote them using their existing marketing budget. I think they've been burned twice before pumping all kinds of money into promoting small dollar coins only to have them flop. As far as circulation and usage goes, my opinion is - here comes flop #3. They will be collected though.

I'll probably stick 'em in a Dansco since I'll own a set by default since I buy a mint set each year. I do think the edge lettering is cool - maybe a new kind of album or holder would is due where the edge lettering can be seen.

BTW, I don't know if it was published anywhere else or online yet. I only saw it in the CW that I got in the mail today.

Drizzt · August 29, 2006 6:01AM

Yeah, maybe a Whitman album set...reverse side up

kwmorgan · August 29, 2006 6:04AM

Isn't the reverse supposed to be a depiction of the Statue of Liberty? If so, I am guessing the removed it because they felt it was implied. Just a guess.

Thenewguy · August 29, 2006 6:31AM

Doesn't surprise me..the Government has been slowly "ditching" our Liberty for a long time.

messydesk · August 29, 2006 6:46AM

So the presidollar will join the 2c and 3cs as our only libertiless circulating coins.

Leiana · August 29, 2006 7:15AM

No "Liberty" on the new coins? This is sad, this is very sad indeed. Coins reflect the people that issue and use them.

-Amanda

ziggy29 · August 29, 2006 7:19AM

<< Doesn't surprise me..the Government has been slowly "ditching" our Liberty for a long time. >>

And in one way or another, from both parties and most ideologies.

notlogical · August 29, 2006 7:20AM

I think the people who fought the revolutionary war to give this country liberty wouldn't like that idea at all.

notwilight · August 29, 2006 7:21AM

<< So the presidollar will join the 2c and 3cs as our only libertiless circulating coins. >>

Cool trivia. Also cool to have edge lettering again.

---Jerry

ziggy29 · August 29, 2006 7:22AM

<< I think the people who fought the revolutionary war to give this country liberty wouldn't like that idea at all.

>>

True, but given that we're less free in many (if not most) ways than the colonies were under George III, they wouldn't like what loss of liberty we've had in the last century either. They might revolt against us now!

notwilight · August 29, 2006 7:25AM

<< 

<< I think the people who fought the revolutionary war to give this country liberty wouldn't like that idea at all.

>>

True, but given that we're less free in many (if not most) ways than the colonies were under George III, they wouldn't like what loss of liberty we've had in the last century either. They might revolt against us now! >>

I generally like to avoid politics altogether so I reading your post I started with at best a neutral attitude. But unfortunately, you're right on the mark. Well said. --Jerry

notlogical · August 29, 2006 7:30AM

<< Was that published anywhere else? >>

I found this, link Read all the way at the bottom of the page.

orie · August 29, 2006 7:50AM

I admit, I'm a nut, but I believe this will be the beginning of making the dollar coin the only dollar domination used.

Nobody has offered up that opinion yet.

LastExitInNY · August 29, 2006 7:56AM

the coin act explains why LIBERTY isnt on the coin: because the use of the Statue of Liberty design "adequately conveys the concept of Liberty" the liberals can settle down now

mirabela · August 29, 2006 8:09AM

Underneath the statue, it's going to say

COMMUNITY
IDENTITY
STABILITY

That's what I heard.

Gemineye · August 29, 2006 8:39AM

S .1047
`(C) EDGE-INCUSED INSCRIPTIONS-
(i) IN GENERAL- The inscription of the year of minting or issuance of the coin and the inscriptions `E Pluribus Unum' and `In God We Trust' shall be edge-incused into the coin.

Would that mean the date incused on the edge............???

ABC123 · August 29, 2006 8:44AM

Ecckkk--The Sky is Falling !

KoinDawg · August 29, 2006 8:56AM

Actually, the liberty figure will still appear on the coin. Just the WORD will be absent. Curious about the incused edge data, particularly date and mintmark. The new ANACS holder is the only one currently that allows one to view the edge of the coin. I guess NGC and PCGS need to scramble to come up with an edge-viewable slab.

messydesk · August 29, 2006 9:11AM

<< Underneath the statue, it's going to say

COMMUNITY
IDENTITY
STABILITY

That's what I heard. >>

I'm glad you didn't say DIVERSITY, otherwise I'd be getting a counterstamp ready.

mrearlygold · August 29, 2006 9:13AM

It would be nice to have it.

kevinstang · August 29, 2006 9:29AM

I thought by law they were required to have it- then again some laws mean nothing in this country. Talk about an amendment to ban flag burning, how about tacking on one to make Liberty stay.

ksteelheader · August 29, 2006 9:38AM

<< I thought by law they were required to have it- then again some laws mean nothing in this country. Talk about an amendment to ban flag burning, how about tacking on one to make Liberty stay. >>

The Colonial people fought for us to have the right to change and you want to deny us the right to change. Our duly elected officials want it removed. If you don't like that concept, run for office yourself.

Coins101 · August 29, 2006 9:40AM

No liberty!!!!! - In big brother we trust?

obversity · August 29, 2006 2:49PM

That's a shame. Is it too late to get it changed? Suppose so.

Here's a good Wikipedia article on the program: Wikipedia Presidollar Entry

Coinhog · August 29, 2006 10:59PM

<< Interesting CW article today mentions that the word "LIBERTY" will NOT be on the new presidential dollars.

"E Pluribus Unum" and "In God We Trust" will remain but be set incuse into the coins edge.

I just thought that was interesting for those who missed it.

Personally I think they should ditch the "In God" part. I'm not opposed to it but weighed against "Liberty", I prefer "Liberty" as traditional American coinage lettering. Also, "Liberty" takes up less space when design is concerned. >>

How will we be able to see the edge lettering when it is in a holder?

Aethelred · August 29, 2006 11:10PM

Interesting (in a sad way) that the powers that be consider COMMUNITY, IDENTITY and STABILITY more important concepts than LIBERTY.

pontiacinf · August 30, 2006 12:31AM

<< I have not received a CW in about three weeks.

>>

2 weeks here, wonder how theyd like me sending payment 4 weeks late

Conder101 · August 30, 2006 9:56AM

<< Was that published anywhere else? >>

Yes, here on the forums multiple times back last December when the legislation was still being debated and then while it was waiting for the Presidents signature. I grouched about the removal of LIBERTY on more than one occasion. I admit I had forgotten that the date and mintmark weresupposedto be on the edge of the coin.

<< So the presidollar will join the 2c and 3cs as our only libertiless circulating coins >>

You forgot the Flying eagle cent and the Shield nickel.

frankieboywonder · August 30, 2006 11:53AM

<< <<Personally I think they should ditch the "In God" part. I'm not opposed to it but weighed against "Liberty", I prefer "Liberty" as traditional American coinage lettering. Also, "Liberty" takes up less space when design is concerned. >>
But why would we just have "We Trust" floating around on our coins?

>>

Because the atheists are ALWAYS trying to trash this motto, so perhaps removing it a piece at a time will finally get the job done for them. They have no life.................afterlife that is.

messydesk · August 30, 2006 1:10PM

<< 

<< Was that published anywhere else? >>

Yes, here on the forums multiple times back last December when the legislation was still being debated and then while it was waiting for the Presidents signature. I grouched about the removal of LIBERTY on more than one occasion. I admit I had forgotten that the date and mintmark weresupposedto be on the edge of the coin.

<< So the presidollar will join the 2c and 3cs as our only libertiless circulating coins >>

You forgot the Flying eagle cent and the Shield nickel. >>

I was just seeing if anyone was paying attention.

LIBERTY no more on the new dollar coins

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