AT, NT? all white seated coins have been messed

seateddime · August 29, 2006 5:06AM

There is virtually no chance a coin that is 100+ years old managed to stay pure white on it's own.

partagas · August 29, 2006 5:09AM

Coins can stay white. Look at all the white morgans out there. Just depends on how they where stored.

But I prefer to see a coin with some natural skin.

Oldnewbie · August 29, 2006 5:12AM

So what's up with all the GSA Morgans. Did the Feds dip 'em?

Edit for the "Wink Thingy."

ziggy29 · August 29, 2006 5:13AM

I suspect most of the "blast white" GSA Morgans still in their holders haven't been messed with. Still, for coins not stored in rolls and bags in vaults for 80+ years, I mostly agree. I can see a few isolated cases in unusual environments where they might have never toned, but the problem is that these special pieces are tainted with the assumption that they have been at least lightly dipped.

Bochiman · August 29, 2006 5:15AM

Makes you wonder if the GSA Morgans/Ikes could be "toned" the same way as the rattler holder coins......

ziggy29 · August 29, 2006 5:16AM

<< <i>Makes you wonder if the GSA Morgans/Ikes could be "toned" the same way as the rattler holder coins......

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I thought about it a little while ago, but I decided not to go there.

Bochiman · August 29, 2006 5:19AM

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<< <i>Makes you wonder if the GSA Morgans/Ikes could be "toned" the same way as the rattler holder coins......

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I thought about it a little while ago, but I decided not to go there.

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I went there

Reason I went there is because I have seen GSA toned dollars that commanded huge premiums as well. If they aren't "safe", I would like to know rather than assuming the world is all rosy and at peace with each other.

seateddime · August 29, 2006 10:08AM

coins stored in bags, in vaults or other climates that stayed the same were protected by each other.

Ever notice the ends of rolls are toned and the coins inside are not?

How many rolls of Seated or Bust coinage have you ever seen?

ABC123 · August 29, 2006 10:15AM

Agreed !

Coinosaurus · August 29, 2006 11:34AM

The question is not whether they have been dipped.

It is how many times they have been dipped.

The 1872-S quarter in the Richmond sale is a great example - a pure white blazer coin with killer luster, and looked totally unmessed with, like it was minted yesterday. Dipped? Probably, but I bet only once or twice.

roadrunner · August 29, 2006 12:01PM

Richmond 1872-s 25c dipped? certainly. And unnatural looking to boot. Same comment on the MS66 Blauvelt 1866-s 25c (finest known but still once dipped). The Norweb 72-s which would probably grade out 66 or better today was naturally skinned imo and therefore is a finer specimen. Anyone know where it went to?
I remember reading in the Richmond catalogue about this dipped
72-s being finer than the Norweb coin by a lot. I think they said the Norweb coin was something like a MS62. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was a solid gem coin by 1987/8 standards and was borderline superb. Someone was smoking something or never saw the Norweb coin.

A number of original hoards of seated dimes, quarters, even halves from the 1879-1890 period were known to be orig white upon hitting the market. These are rare exceptions. I've owned a couple of near white orig seated coins, but 80% white is about as close as you can get. I too prefer a touch of color.

All white seated coins are not necessarily messed with. But the odds are strongly in your favor that they are.

roadrunner

AT, NT? all white seated coins have been messed

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