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Devil made me do it.

Sorry but the mischievous boy in me has to make this post. Looks like First Strike PR70 gold buffalos are commanding at least a 50% premium on ebay...

PR70 $2000 and just sitting there.

PR70 First Strike... $3000 and still bidding...


--Jerry

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe it's the inferior photography, but there's no way that the non-First Strike™ is a 70. image
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Jerry -- Please change the title of your thread to something like "Ebay Seller Uses PCGS First Strike™ Designation to Take Newbie to the Cleaners." Thanks. image
  • yeah but in all honesty there is no way the other coin is a first stike to begin with! .... unless you make up a new meaning for the words first stike. image
  • There is just something about owning "THE FIRST" of anything.

    Thank goodness there are enough to go around. image
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Jerry -- Please change the title of your thread to something like "Ebay Seller Uses PCGS First Strike™ Designation to Take Newbie to the Cleaners." Thanks. image >>



    I liken "First Strike" to synthetic oil. It doesn't help the engine any more than First strike changes a coin but it makes the owner feel better so therefore it is money well spent.

    And don't blame the seller on the FS. The auction started somewhere below the first bid of $23 and the free market (ref Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, first published 1776) took the price to $3000.

    --Jerry
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374


    << <i>
    I liken "First Strike" to synthetic oil. It doesn't help the engine any more than First strike changes a coin but it makes the owner feel better so therefore it is money well spent.
    --Jerry >>


    Synthetic motor oil is proven to be far superior than regular motor oils..........
    ......Larry........image
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> I liken "First Strike" to synthetic oil. It doesn't help the engine any more than First strike changes a coin but it makes the owner feel better so therefore it is money well spent. --Jerry >>

    Synthetic motor oil is proven to be far superior than regular motor oils.......... >>



    Nope. Sorry, that's just your opinion and the position of many marketers. I support your right to that opinion, even if I disagree.

    --Jerry
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i> I liken "First Strike" to synthetic oil. It doesn't help the engine any more than First strike changes a coin but it makes the owner feel better so therefore it is money well spent. --Jerry >>

    Synthetic motor oil is proven to be far superior than regular motor oils.......... >>



    Nope. Sorry, that's just your opinion and the position of many marketers. I support your right to that opinion, even if I disagree.

    --Jerry >>


    While I cannot provide you with instant fact..it has been scientifically proven Synthetic Motor oil is far superior than regular motor oils and it is not just my sole opinion but it is based on facts.
    ......Larry........image
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    So assuming they're both of equal quality, an extra $1,000 PLUS for a marketing gimmick? image
  • How did this thread on first strike's (no I don't know how to do the TM thing) bringing a premium turn into a thread on the merits of synthetic vs regular oil ?..imageimageimage
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    1969s WCLR-001 counterclash
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374


    << <i>How did this thread on first strike's (no I don't know how to do the TM thing) bringing a premium turn into a thread on the merits of synthetic vs regular oil ?..imageimageimage >>


    image
    ......Larry........image
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How did this thread on first strike's (no I don't know how to do the TM thing) bringing a premium turn into a thread on the merits of synthetic vs regular oil ?..imageimageimage >>



    My point is that First Strike is adds the same value as synthetic oil. Many of you believe in synthetic oil but don't believe in First Strike.

    Sure, synthetic oil performs much better at high temperatures--temperatures higher than ever experienced in a crankcase and that can be shown scientificly. First Strike coins perform much better in labratory experiments which require the presence of F's and S's.

    --Jerry
  • I would not pay more than $25 above melt on these.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    But Russ told me that First Strikes™ don't bring premiums on eBay. Maybe eBay user rumcow is bidding just to prove him wrong. image
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would not pay more than $25 above melt on these. >>



    I would say this is a pure collector viewpoint. And I can't aruge with that.

    But my guess is that lots of people are looking at the pop report and looking to make a few bucks (totally unrelated to value to a collector). The free market is speaking. Many of you talk about how this is just taking advantage of newbies. I don't think that is the case. People aren't plopping down hundreds or thousands of dollars w/o doing some research--maybe even reading these threads. I did a lot of research before I paid the $10/coin for the designation.

    I sold a PF69FS buffalo to a guy who had recently paid well into the thousands for a PF69 silver eagle. Based on this and other purchases he made, I'd say he's well informed. Sure, the market may eventually prove him wrong and you pure collectionists right but for now, the market is supporting the FS as a valuable designation.

    --Jerry
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Update: First Strike PR70 DCAM sells for $3,050. Non-First Strike PR70 DCAM still unpurchased with BIN at $2,000.

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