Wicked hit...

AZCoinDevil · August 26, 2006 12:59PM

I was looking at this recent find and was rally happy until I looked hard at the reverse.

There is a WICKED hit on the left wing.

Is there ANY chance that the coin was minted this way , or was it handled and hit. It just seems to be in a strange location, and the damage does not extend past the edge of the wing. The obverse is juat for your review.

Other than that how was the PLay Mrs Lincoln?

Opinions , Grade?

Any chance there is a die break on the Reverse Rim Left side? I dont know what I am seeking so I am asking a buch of dumb questions...

Thanks!!!

lordmarcovan · August 26, 2006 1:42PM

Looks like a pretty heavy bagmark to me.

<< <i>It just seems to be in a strange location, and the damage does not extend past the edge of the wing >>

Well it might not, necessarily, since the wing is higher than the field around it, obviously.

It's bagmarked and has been banged around a bit, but that doesn't really bother me. Morgans are big, heavy coins, and they got marked. The hit on the left wing (actually, the eagle's right wing), makes it a rather typical coin. Average. Certainly not one of exceptional quality, but not horrible, either. I've seen worse. This just looks like a generic-quality Morgan with a somewhat bigger-than-average mark on the wing. The rest of it looks all right.

Grade? I dunno. Can't tell if I am actually seeing rub on some of the high points, there, or if it's just flatly struck in places. I would grade it AU55 to AU58 if it has rub, MS60 to MS61 if it doesn't.

Die break on the reverse rim, left side? I dunno there, either. Looks like there is something goin' on there, maybe. I will defer to the VAM specialists who might recognize such a variety.

PS- your wearing dthigpen's icon threw me off, for a minute.

AZCoinDevil · August 26, 2006 1:46PM

Wow Thanks...

Am I taking someone Elses Icon? I will change it...

yellowjacket · August 26, 2006 3:16PM

Could that be a "strike through" or defective planchet?

construct · August 26, 2006 3:25PM

The hit on the wing is bigger than you usually see, I admit; but I think it's a hit all the same.

There appear to be two die breaks--one from the rim through the left wingtip and the D, the other from the U to the star.

numobri · August 26, 2006 3:39PM

Looks like a die crack is runnjng through the tops of ERI of america also.

That is a nasty hit on the wing.

The coin looks softly struck.IMO.

Brian

Coxe · August 26, 2006 4:09PM

Yeah, that is a nice, deep, post-mint dig on the wing. There are a couple notable ones also on the obverse rim. The periperal cracks aren't anything special. The dig really doesn't technically hurt the coin at its state of wear. The strike was certainly weak, more like a Philly one of the date, but it looks like it still saw some circulation. (Never can be sure from internet image though.) The fields are remarkably clean and the cheek is better than many mint state ones. There's minor erosion from die fatigue as well.

AZCoinDevil · August 26, 2006 7:12PM

Wow thanks again for all the info folks.

Would this fit any VAM designation? The die cracks are not breaks but seem to be in some of the same areas

Thanks Again..

AzCoinDevil

Coxe · August 26, 2006 8:59PM

<< <i>Wow thanks again for all the info folks.

Would this fit any VAM designation? The die cracks are not breaks but seem to be in some of the same areas

Thanks Again..

AzCoinDevil >>

I have seen this quite a few times and have a couple of them. It is often mistaken for the relatively new VAM-47A because the crack from D to S throught he right (viewer's left) wing is very close to that one's. It is not. I forget which variety it indeed is, but it is a common one.

Shamika · August 27, 2006 12:27AM

Die cracks protrude out of the coin. The mark on your coin digs into the coin. It's not a die crack.

ABC123 · August 27, 2006 12:31AM

Broken Wing---Can't FLY

lkenefic · August 27, 2006 1:15AM

I think its probably just a weak strike. The "rub" I see over the ear on on the eagles' breast I think is attributable to this. The fields are just too clean for anything less than MS...I'd venture a guess of MS62 (that is a pretty major hit on the wing)...L

TwoSides2aCoin · August 27, 2006 1:27AM

<< <i>I think its probably just a weak strike. The "rub" I see over the ear on on the eagles' breast I think is attributable to this. The fields are just too clean for anything less than MS...I'd venture a guess of MS62 (that is a pretty major hit on the wing)...L >>

I agree with you. MS62 easy enough, but... it really does look like the finish on a coin that sat in a vinyl flip for a long, long time.

... PVC damage is my guess.

AZCoinDevil · August 27, 2006 3:16AM

Thanks Again Folks

I am going to Slab it. The 14 Bucks is worth the experiment, and I will post the results.

I fare say that I have some due back in a week or two, these are the first I have ever sent in.

The twiches are setting in I hope half of them come back in holders.

AZCoinDevil

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