Think this Morgan would get a PO-1?

Newb · August 22, 2006 12:46PM

How 'bout this?

messydesk · August 22, 2006 12:51PM

Not sure the first one would, but the second one is a 1921-S and should slab a PO1.

clw54 · August 22, 2006 12:53PM

I think the first would be F02, the second P01.

Newb · August 22, 2006 12:56PM

<< Not sure the first one would, but the second one is a 1921-S and should slab a PO1. >>

I gots to know how you know that.

Ok, what the heck is this?

ziggy29 · August 22, 2006 12:57PM

The top one is still Fair, I think; the second one should make PO-1.

Shamika · August 22, 2006 1:04PM

Messydesk - How on earth do you know the second coin is dated 1921?

Coxe · August 22, 2006 1:10PM

<< Messydesk - How on earth do you know the second coin is dated 1921? >>

He is saying that is a D reverse.

Newb · August 22, 2006 1:16PM

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<< Messydesk - How on earth do you know the second coin is dated 1921? >>

He is saying that is a D reverse. >>

ahhhh...ok..never thought of that

DennisH · August 22, 2006 1:23PM

Could it also be a 1903 Micro-S?

tjkillian · August 22, 2006 1:23PM

I know the 1921 Morgan dollar is different than all the rest, I just don't know EXACTLY what the difference is.

Tom

Coxe · August 22, 2006 1:24PM

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<< Messydesk - How on earth do you know the second coin is dated 1921? >>

He is saying that is a D reverse. >>

ahhhh...ok..never thought of that

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Should be able to even VAM that one if you have anough reference specimens around to nail the overpolished left wing (viewer's right) and tail feathers. Can almost say that is a D2 reverse.

Fletcher · August 22, 2006 1:26PM

<< Can almost say that is a D2 reverse. >>

Damn ... he's good

Coxe · August 22, 2006 1:27PM

<< Could it also be a 1903 Micro-S?

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Nope. It is definitely not a C4 reverse. But finding such a coin in PO-1 would be very cool and the ID very possible as long as you know what to look for.

Newb · August 22, 2006 1:36PM

<< Should be able to even VAM that one if you have anough reference specimens around to nail the overpolished left wing (viewer's right) and tail feathers. Can almost say that is a D2 reverse. >>

HighRelief · August 22, 2006 3:17PM

Wow! these Morgan's sure have been around the block a couple of times.

Nice job on the Vam designation Messydesk and Coxe

messydesk · August 23, 2006 12:32AM

<< Messydesk - How on earth do you know the second coin is dated 1921? >>

It's a D reverse with an S mintmark. The fletching on the arrows is different than on other reverses. The size and shape of the S is also unique to 1921.

CarsonCityGold · August 23, 2006 12:41AM

Just because you can figure it out doesn't insure that PCGS wil slab it. This coin has been submitted 2 times for a crossover and 1 Presidential Review (they had to love that one) and it still comes back as "unable to determine with certainty".

Coxe · August 23, 2006 3:46AM

Show the reverse. That VAM should be doable as long as the tops of the CC and their serifs are visible.

CarsonCityGold · August 23, 2006 4:07AM

Coxe · August 23, 2006 4:31AM

I suppose it could also be an 1883-CC C3b reverse. Would have to compare the upper diggit curatures and positions,.... I assume PCGS has tried to do this a couple times now.

ledzep87 · August 23, 2006 4:33AM

I just bought a coin this morning that I am going to use as a pocket piece. It is nothing specail, just a 2006 ASE.

I wonder what it will look like as a PO-1?

CarsonCityGold · August 23, 2006 5:11AM

<< I assume PCGS has tried to do this a couple times now. >>

I bought the coin raw and sent it to PCGS. It came back:

I then sent it to ANACS and paid for the variety/attribution research option and the coin came back in the current holder.

I then sent it back to PCGS for a crossover and it came back as unable to determine date. I then sent it back for a presidential review and it came back tagged unable to determine with certainty.

Think this Morgan would get a PO-1?

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