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True or false: All circulated coins have been cleaned.

True.
They might not have been cleaned in the traditional sense, but once circulated, passing from hand to hand, they are cleaned.
The more circulated they are, the more cleaned they are.
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks.
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Circulation is a very abrasive form of cleaning and varies greatly from one series
    to another and to a lesser degree (usually) to individual coins. This form of cleaning
    though also usually "dirties" a coin as contaminants are forced into deep crevices
    and the more angular parts of the design.

    Normal wear is composed of numerous actions and most act to clean coins and make
    them thinner from the highest points inward.
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    ManMan Posts: 1,002
    Obviously you never seen a penny laying on the floor of the subway.image
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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,096 ✭✭✭
    I find you statement quite preplexing........

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with your premise.

    I have often wondered how a coin would be graded if the last holder (or circulator) of a coin had been a kid swimming at the beach, with a pocket full of sand.

    You get the point - what really consitutes marks on a coin denoted as cleaning versus unfortunate (but natural) wear?

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    JulioJulio Posts: 2,501
    How does one prove intent?
    Now I'll be up for days contemplationg that. You ask tough questions. image jws
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    robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Any time the word "all" is used in a True or False statement, the answer tends to be "False".
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,489 ✭✭✭
    false as they leave the mint clean
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    Would your analogy also refer to human body parts as well?

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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now don't confuse the issue of cleaning with the issue of wear. Anyway that question will make your head explode if you think about it too long.imageimage
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    relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    False-

    Each time a coin passes hands, more germs are added to the surface - then they should be cleaned.
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    pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>Circulation is a very abrasive form of cleaning and varies greatly from one series
    to another and to a lesser degree (usually) to individual coins. This form of cleaning
    though also usually "dirties" a coin as contaminants are forced into deep crevices
    and the more angular parts of the design.

    Normal wear is composed of numerous actions and most act to clean coins and make
    them thinner from the highest points inward. >>



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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    "Any time the word "all" is used in a True or False statement, the answer tends to be "False"."


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    I could not agree more. Any time that such extreme language (e.g., all, every, none, never, always), or other such hyperbole, is used in a statement, I tend to disagree.

    Although I understand the premise of your question, I would not consider circulation wear to be even a special case of 'cleaning', so I would have to vote 'false'.
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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    False!
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    functionally the same process.
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,402 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>True.
    They might not have been cleaned in the traditional sense, but once circulated, passing from hand to hand, they are cleaned.
    The more circulated they are, the more cleaned they are.
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    So I guess PCGS has a reason to bag every circulated coin if they follow your premise. You are good for their business model!!! BTW I disagree with your idea as coins are circulated they are subject to friction/use which is a natural process of deterioration and not cleaning. Cleaning is a revitalization process where attempts are made to rejuvinate an object to its original state while circulating an object simply subjects an object to natural wear and tear. I guess we're spliting hairs!!
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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FalsE!!!
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    jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    I agree. I have a 1921 Peace that I think has only been circulated. ANACS feels that it was cleaned. I think circulation marks could look like cleaning in many instances.
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Any time that such extreme language (e.g., all, every, none, never, always), or other such hyperbole, is used in a statement, I tend to disagree. >>

    Except that you just did it yourself by saying "any time." image
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the strict definition of uncirculated from decades ago, it meant just that, never circulated. No hand to hand contact, no commerce, no nothing except being plucked from a bank wrapper and put away.
    Now after minor handling (or even being placed on a tray for storage and easy viewing) this coin could become "circulated."
    Don't let the fact that PCGS would probably still grade it MS66 or 68 deter you. All such coins have certainly not been cleaned. Many have been stored well over the years.

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