<< <i> But, you said you have your opinion. What is it? >>
And ruin all the fun? My original opinion was EF-45, that's in my dad's records. In my records it's listed as a 35. When I posted it I thought it was a 20. After looking at a few others and really studying mine, my opinion is back to a 45.
I have an ANACs graded 1852 and although mine was net graded to VF-20 with XF details due to a scratch, I can surely say that this coin would also net grade due to apparent cleaning. IMO it would go VF-20-30 depending on how much they want to whack it for the cleaning with XF details. Edited to add---Nice coin no matter what the problems are or the grade it gets as I love them 3 cent pieces!
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<< <i>And ruin all the fun? My original opinion was EF-45, that's in my dad's records. In my records it's listed as a 35. When I posted it I thought it was a 20. After looking at a few others and really studying mine, my opinion is back to a 45. >>
Amanda you would compremise your grading standards because of what is said here and some pictures that have been posted ? Maybe see if you can look at a few more of these in hand and then determine a grade for the coin.
The coin is nice for a Dansco Set but if it was sent to the Big 3 it would probably BB at two of them and net grade, as others have said, at the other.
If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
<< <i> If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
<< <i>The coin is nice for a Dansco Set but if it was sent to the Big 3 it would probably BB at two of them and net grade, as others have said, at the other. Ken >>
<< <i>Too bad I don't send my coins in for grading! >>
Make a exception for this one coin. I think this coin would be a very educational example to try to get into a slab. Heck you could even send the coin to me and I will submit it for the exact fee it will cost me. If I do not think it would grade I will send the coin back to you. You have nothing to lose here except about 18 bucks or so if it does not grade. If it grades you have nothing to lose period.
<< <i>...If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
Ken >>
Ken, I have a proposal for you, which I have run by Amanda and which I think she would agree to. I am confident that she is more than capable of speaking on her own behalf, however.
.....What about splurging for the postage fees both ways and the grading fee (and forgetting the $20 dollar bill) and Amanda can send the coin to PCGS to get it graded? If PCGS encapsulates it, she can choose to crack it out of the holder and place it back in her album. What say you, Ken?
Edited to add: If the coin body-bags or grades less than VF 35, I'll even split the cost with you.
<< <i>...If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
Ken >>
Ken, I have a proposal for you, which I have run by Amanda and which I think she would agree to. I am confident that she is more than capable of speaking on her own behalf, however.
.....What about splurging for the postage fees both ways and the grading fee (and forgetting the $20 dollar bill) and Amanda can send the coin to PCGS to get it graded? If PCGS encapsulates it, she can choose to crack it out of the holder and place it back in her album. What say you, Ken?
Edited to add: If the coin body-bags or grades less than VF 35, I'll even split the cost with you. >>
Mark how about if Amanda sends the coin to you for a unbias opinion of whether the coin will grade or not. The first opinion before PCGS's is what I am really after. I see no reason to throw money down the drain. I am very conservative that way. If you think it will grade send it in and I will pick up the tab. None of this 50 dollar or 100 dollar stuff though. If you send it to PCGS and it grades we will go from there.... By The Way....I will not welch out on this like someothers have. If I lose I will take my medicine......another
The reason I asked her to send it to me was because I could piggy back it along with some coins I need to send in and if I really thought it would grade IT WOULD GO IN TO PCGS. Another
Let me know what happens. I still think the coin is a very educational coin.
Ken, that works for me if it does for Amanda, and I will reimburse her postage if she goes for this "deal". If I get the coin in time I might even be able to show it to some other dealers for their opinions in Denver.
<< <i>Ken, that works for me if it does for Amanda, and I will reimburse her postage if she goes for this "deal". If I get the coin in time I might even be able to show it to some other dealers for their opinions in Denver. >>
Sure, I'm okay with that. I had no idea my little coin would cause such a ruckus.
<< <i>Ken, that works for me if it does for Amanda, and I will reimburse her postage if she goes for this "deal". If I get the coin in time I might even be able to show it to some other dealers for their opinions in Denver. >>
Sure, I'm okay with that. I had no idea my little coin would cause such a ruckus.
-Amanda >>
No ruckus. I actually think this is quite cool since the coin had such a huge difference of opinions here.
Were "On" as far as I am concerned. Mark PM me when a verdict is reached. Yours or PCGS's
<< <i>Look forward to seeing how this pans out, still waiting for others to guess on RGT's coin..... and if no one else is guessing - was i even close???????????????????????????? >>
I was waiting to see if anyone else cared to guess or if no one cared. I guess dropping my picture in the middle of this thread was a bad idea but I thought it could add to the discussion of grading the tiny coins.
I've had that one for seven years and it's in an older NGC MS62 holder. It has fewer marks by far than other MS62s that I own. Being a type 1 it has dull luster, dull even for a type 1, which is probably what held it back.
This coin suffers from a weak strike that is often mistaken for wear. That, along with the dull luster from the 75% silver composition leads many to believe pieces like this are circulated. I have gotten much more picky about the strike of the trimes I buy now.
edited, just read all the posts... love to see this in Denver... off hand I really see no reason why it would not holder and with today's grading think you will get Min VF35 maybe even a XF40 ... please keep me posted..... sorry I missed this thread....we are super busy this week...
<< <i>Look forward to seeing how this pans out, still waiting for others to guess on RGT's coin..... and if no one else is guessing - was i even close???????????????????????????? >>
I was waiting to see if anyone else cared to guess or if no one cared. I guess dropping my picture in the middle of this thread was a bad idea but I thought it could add to the discussion of grading the tiny coins.
I've had that one for seven years and it's in an older NGC MS62 holder. It has fewer marks by far than other MS62s that I own. Being a type 1 it has dull luster, dull even for a type 1, which is probably what held it back.
This coin suffers from a weak strike that is often mistaken for wear. That, along with the dull luster from the 75% silver composition leads many to believe pieces like this are circulated. I have gotten much more picky about the strike of the trimes I buy now. >>
thanks, i was afraid of the seeming lack of luster, it just looked too dang clean to be anything less than 63....
I viewed the coin in person and believe it has been lightly cleaned but would still grade XF 40 by a major grading company.
I also showed it to two very knowledgeable dealers in Denver. One of them thought it was a low grade AU that would probably net grade at XF45 and the other thought it would grade either VF35 or XF40. My sight-seen, "final answer" is Xf40. At the request of Amanda and a forum member, the coin has been forwarded to him for inspection and imaging.
<< <i>Mark by a major grading company but not PCGS ? I contended all along that it looked cleaned. Would you think it would make it into PCGS plastic ?
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<< <i> But, you said you have your opinion. What is it? >>
And ruin all the fun? My original opinion was EF-45, that's in my dad's records. In my records it's listed as a 35. When I posted it I thought it was a 20. After looking at a few others and really studying mine, my opinion is back to a 45.
BTW- What's the difference between EF and XF?
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BTW- What's the difference between EF and XF?
-Amanda >>
E & X .....
They both mean the same
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<< <i>And ruin all the fun? My original opinion was EF-45, that's in my dad's records. In my records it's listed as a 35. When I posted it I thought it was a 20. After looking at a few others and really studying mine, my opinion is back to a 45. >>
Amanda you would compremise your grading standards because of what is said here and some pictures that have been posted ? Maybe see if you can look at a few more of these in hand and then determine a grade for the coin.
The coin is nice for a Dansco Set but if it was sent to the Big 3 it would probably BB at two of them and net grade, as others have said, at the other.
If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
Ken
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If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
Ken >>
Too bad I don't send my coins in for grading!
-Amanda
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My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!
Proud member of the CUFYNA
<< <i>The coin is nice for a Dansco Set but if it was sent to the Big 3 it would probably BB at two of them and net grade, as others have said, at the other.
Ken >>
Why would it BB?
<< <i>Too bad I don't send my coins in for grading!
Make a exception for this one coin. I think this coin would be a very educational example to try to get into a slab. Heck you could even send the coin to me and I will submit it for the exact fee it will cost me. If I do not think it would grade I will send the coin back to you. You have nothing to lose here except about 18 bucks or so if it does not grade. If it grades you have nothing to lose period.
tmot99 I still think its cleaned thus the BB.
Ken
<< <i>...If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
Ken >>
Ken, I have a proposal for you, which I have run by Amanda and which I think she would agree to. I am confident that she is more than capable of speaking on her own behalf, however.
.....What about splurging for the postage fees both ways and the grading fee (and forgetting the $20 dollar bill) and Amanda can send the coin to PCGS to get it graded? If PCGS encapsulates it, she can choose to crack it out of the holder and place it back in her album. What say you, Ken?
Edited to add: If the coin body-bags or grades less than VF 35, I'll even split the cost with you.
-Amanda
I'm a YN working on a type set!
My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!
Proud member of the CUFYNA
<< <i>I'm all for Mark's idea.
-Amanda >>
Me too.
34 Grades
High- AU (50)
Low- 8
Mean- 27
Median-30
Mode-45
Very interesting!
-Amanda
I'm a YN working on a type set!
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Proud member of the CUFYNA
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<< <i>...If you should send this coin to PCGS and it comes back as a VF35 or higher you will have a 20 dollar bill coming your way from me. Hows that sound ? I will not honor this if the coin goes to NGC.
Ken >>
Ken, I have a proposal for you, which I have run by Amanda and which I think she would agree to. I am confident that she is more than capable of speaking on her own behalf, however.
.....What about splurging for the postage fees both ways and the grading fee (and forgetting the $20 dollar bill) and Amanda can send the coin to PCGS to get it graded? If PCGS encapsulates it, she can choose to crack it out of the holder and place it back in her album. What say you, Ken?
Edited to add: If the coin body-bags or grades less than VF 35, I'll even split the cost with you. >>
Mark how about if Amanda sends the coin to you for a unbias opinion of whether the coin will grade or not. The first opinion before PCGS's is what I am really after. I see no reason to throw money down the drain. I am very conservative that way. If you think it will grade send it in and I will pick up the tab. None of this 50 dollar or 100 dollar stuff though. If you send it to PCGS and it grades we will go from there....
The reason I asked her to send it to me was because I could piggy back it along with some coins I need to send in and if I really thought it would grade IT WOULD GO IN TO PCGS. Another
Let me know what happens. I still think the coin is a very educational coin.
Ken
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<< <i>Ken, that works for me if it does for Amanda, and I will reimburse her postage if she goes for this "deal". If I get the coin in time I might even be able to show it to some other dealers for their opinions in Denver. >>
Sure, I'm okay with that. I had no idea my little coin would cause such a ruckus.
-Amanda
I'm a YN working on a type set!
My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!
Proud member of the CUFYNA
<< <i>
<< <i>Ken, that works for me if it does for Amanda, and I will reimburse her postage if she goes for this "deal". If I get the coin in time I might even be able to show it to some other dealers for their opinions in Denver. >>
Sure, I'm okay with that. I had no idea my little coin would cause such a ruckus.
-Amanda >>
No ruckus. I actually think this is quite cool since the coin had such a huge difference of opinions here.
Were "On" as far as I am concerned. Mark PM me when a verdict is reached. Yours or PCGS's
Ken
and if no one else is guessing - was i even close????????????????????????????
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<< <i>Look forward to seeing how this pans out, still waiting for others to guess on RGT's coin..... and if no one else is guessing - was i even close???????????????????????????? >>
I was waiting to see if anyone else cared to guess or if no one cared. I guess dropping my picture in the middle of this thread was a bad idea but I thought it could add to the discussion of grading the tiny coins.
I've had that one for seven years and it's in an older NGC MS62 holder. It has fewer marks by far than other MS62s that I own. Being a type 1 it has dull luster, dull even for a type 1, which is probably what held it back.
This coin suffers from a weak strike that is often mistaken for wear. That, along with the dull luster from the 75% silver composition leads many to believe pieces like this are circulated. I have gotten much more picky about the strike of the trimes I buy now.
edited, just read all the posts... love to see this in Denver... off hand I really see no reason why it would not holder and with today's grading think you will get Min VF35 maybe even a XF40 ... please keep me posted..... sorry I missed this thread....we are super busy this week...
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<< <i>Look forward to seeing how this pans out, still waiting for others to guess on RGT's coin..... and if no one else is guessing - was i even close???????????????????????????? >>
I was waiting to see if anyone else cared to guess or if no one cared. I guess dropping my picture in the middle of this thread was a bad idea but I thought it could add to the discussion of grading the tiny coins.
I've had that one for seven years and it's in an older NGC MS62 holder. It has fewer marks by far than other MS62s that I own. Being a type 1 it has dull luster, dull even for a type 1, which is probably what held it back.
This coin suffers from a weak strike that is often mistaken for wear. That, along with the dull luster from the 75% silver composition leads many to believe pieces like this are circulated. I have gotten much more picky about the strike of the trimes I buy now. >>
thanks, i was afraid of the seeming lack of luster, it just looked too dang clean to be anything less than 63....
-Amanda
I'm a YN working on a type set!
My Buffalo Nickel Website Home of the Quirky Buffaloes Collection!
Proud member of the CUFYNA
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<< <i>XF-40 >>
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I also showed it to two very knowledgeable dealers in Denver. One of them thought it was a low grade AU that would probably net grade at XF45 and the other thought it would grade either VF35 or XF40. My sight-seen, "final answer" is Xf40. At the request of Amanda and a forum member, the coin has been forwarded to him for inspection and imaging.
Ken
<< <i>Mark by a major grading company but not PCGS ? I contended all along that it looked cleaned. Would you think it would make it into PCGS plastic ?
Ken >>
Yes, I think PCGS would grade it (XF40).
unless the submission is from Mark or maybe Russ...