Ever bought a cheap coin from someone while they were under the influence?

ANACONDA · August 3, 2006 11:41PM

I haven't but I have thought about giving beer away at our tables at coin shows. The cost of 1500 beers is about $1000. A few good sales would pay for it. I think though the problem is that they sell beer at many shows so they might not take kindly to someone giving it away.

numobri · August 3, 2006 11:50PM

No but,I have bought a few very nice coins while under the influence.Some times it's the only way I'll cut loose with my money.

Brian

PS; Free beer? I'll be there.

rsdoug81 · August 3, 2006 11:52PM

Yeah...an open bar at a major coin show would be kind of interesting; however, it probably would pay off for you in the long run.

notwilight · August 3, 2006 11:53PM

Wine might be seen in a better light. Some art galleries, spas and other luxury oriented businesses give their customers a glass of wine to "relax" them. I'm sure it helps me to make decisions, just not sure the quality of them. A little alcohol helps me feel the real "want" for something and put aside the overly-analysed nerdy intellctual arguments on whether or not I "should". Having something that I really want generally brings more pleasure than things that were just good deals or good investments.

Without the alcohol I tend to just sleep on it and if I wake up still thinking about it then I must want it bad enough to buy it. If I wake up and it's out of my mind, I don't go back. I've used this strategy mostly with art.

--Jerry

ziggy29 · August 3, 2006 11:53PM

Well, there's a reason the casinos do it...

kranky · August 3, 2006 11:56PM

You know what, that's a great idea. At trade shows I attend, the larger exhibitors sometimes have free beer and/or a fancy coffee bar, soft pretzels, etc. and they are always popular. Does that $1000 price include the bartender (who I assume must be hired from the facility, which is the liquor license holder). I doubt the facility would care if you want to give it away, since you have to pay them for the beer and the person serving it.

xphobe · August 3, 2006 11:59PM

I read about a pheromone (oxytocin? I forget) that they recently discovered causes a feeling of trust in the person who smells it. People under its influence were more likely to engage in business deals. You might want to spray some of that around your table.

VTCoins · August 4, 2006 12:03AM

I think though the problem is that they sell beer at many shows so they might not take kindly to someone giving it away.

Maybe you could covertly serve shots?

At trade shows I attend, the larger exhibitors sometimes have free beer and/or a fancy coffee bar, soft pretzels, etc. and they are always popular.

I have always thought that coin shows should be "glammed" up a bit. One trade show I went to had the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders at one booth!

messydesk · August 4, 2006 12:23AM

I can just see the AT factories lacing their free beer with ecstacy.

Cladiator · August 4, 2006 12:26AM

<< I haven't but I have thought about giving beer away at our tables at coin shows. The cost of 1500 beers is about $1000. A few good sales would pay for it. I think though the problem is that they sell beer at many shows so they might not take kindly to someone giving it away. >>

Hopefully you're joking. If I found out a seller was doing that purposely they'd not get a cent from me again.

Longacre · August 4, 2006 2:41AM

Would the contract be enforceable?

MadMarty · August 4, 2006 2:43AM

Hey Snake, if you drink enough beer Laura might even start looking good!!!

claychaser · August 4, 2006 2:45AM

Hey Mr. Lawyer!

If you get someone drunk and they claim you ripped them on the deal, is your purchase or sale contract voidable?

Barndog · August 4, 2006 2:49AM

I like playing poker with people who are drinking.

ziggy29 · August 4, 2006 2:51AM

<< I like playing poker with people who are drinking. >>

Is there any other way to play poker?

PerryHall · August 4, 2006 3:14AM

<< Hey Snake, if you drink enough beer Laura might even start looking good!!!

>>

lkenefic · August 4, 2006 3:47AM

<< I read about a pheromone (oxytocin? I forget) that they recently discovered causes a feeling of trust in the person who smells it. People under its influence were more likely to engage in business deals. You might want to spray some of that around your table. >>

...yeah...oxytocin...if you're a guy, your breasts will swell and and be sensitive to the touch and you'll experience a need to cuddle. If you're a pregnant woman, it would induce labor....wouldn't THAT be a coin show to remember!!!!

poorguy · August 4, 2006 3:52AM

In addition to having to get a license to serve alcoholic beverages, you would also have to card everyone to make sure they are of legal age and get permission from the show organizers and owners of the convention center.

Since Aramark has essentially a monopoly over convention center food services, it would never be allowed to happen.

seateddime · August 4, 2006 3:55AM

I like to buy and sell all my coins while at a bar or pub as I enjoy a cool iced tea. Imagine all the deals you would get if they served beer at coin shows.

slipgate · August 4, 2006 4:08AM

You'd think with your prices that you could pay top dollar for OTC purchases.

relayer · August 4, 2006 4:10AM

Plesae let us know where you are completely messed up and listing coins for sale, and we can all go bargain hunting.

mgoodm3 · August 4, 2006 4:14AM

You looking to buy something from Mel Gibson?

poorguy · August 4, 2006 4:23AM

<< You'd think with your prices that you could pay top dollar for OTC purchases.

>>

Who peed in your wheaties?

DUIGUY · August 4, 2006 4:33AM

Perhaps the other way around !!

slipgate · August 4, 2006 4:49AM

It's all in good fun, I just can't resist a jibe at you guys.

ziggy29 · August 4, 2006 4:50AM

<< Plesae let us know where you are completely messed up and listing coins for sale, and we can all go bargain hunting. >>

I wonder if that's what's happening at Superior with all those messed up BIN listings.

shylock · August 4, 2006 4:56AM

This is a reprehensible post.

But typical for a lawyer collector. Take advantage of any collector's weaknesses. Makes me sick.

poorguy · August 4, 2006 5:00AM

<< This is a reprehensible post.

But typical for a lawyer collector. Take advantage of any collector's weaknesses. Makes me sick. >>

I bet more dealers would come around looking for free beer than collectors. Then who will take advantage of who?

shylock · August 4, 2006 5:26AM

I bet more dealers would come around looking for free beer than collectors. Then who will take advantage of who?

Poorguy - I know you work for Anaconda now so I'll cut you some slack.

I'm an alcoholic so I take this post personally. It's so typical of a lawyer to take advantage of a condition like this.

Like I said, sick post. But slick poster.

BlindedByEgo · August 4, 2006 8:29AM

<< Hey Snake, if you drink enough beer Laura might even start looking good!!!

>>

Beer goggles?

Hide a keg under the table!

BlindedByEgo · August 4, 2006 8:45AM

<< I bet more dealers would come around looking for free beer than collectors. Then who will take advantage of who?

Poorguy - I know you work for Anaconda now so I'll cut you some slack.

I'm an alcoholic so I take this post personally. It's so typical of a lawyer to take advantage of a condition like this.

Like I said, sick post. But slick poster. >>

Dude - I am, too. 17 years in November. It might be good to remember rule #62.

Plus, for guys like us, it would be like watching amateur hour

Conder101 · August 5, 2006 12:16AM

<< In addition to having to get a license to serve alcoholic beverages, you would also have to card everyone to make sure they are of legal age >>

You have to have a license to SELL alcoholic beverages, but do you have to have one to give them away? You would still have to card people though because it IS still illegal to sell or give alcohol to a minor.

ibzman350 · August 5, 2006 12:22AM

<< I like playing poker with people who are drinking. >>

Played last nite.............everyone was drinking but me, haven't had a drink in 2.5 years.

The boys cleaned my clock..

Herb

poorguy · August 5, 2006 12:23AM

<< 

<< In addition to having to get a license to serve alcoholic beverages, you would also have to card everyone to make sure they are of legal age >>

You have to have a license to SELL alcoholic beverages, but do you have to have one to give them away? You would still have to card people though because it IS still illegal to sell or give alcohol to a minor. >>

No, you have to have a license to SERVE alcohol. Giving away for free is essentially selling it for Zero dollars.

poorguy · August 5, 2006 12:26AM

<< I bet more dealers would come around looking for free beer than collectors. Then who will take advantage of who?

Poorguy - I know you work for Anaconda now so I'll cut you some slack.

I'm an alcoholic so I take this post personally. It's so typical of a lawyer to take advantage of a condition like this.

Like I said, sick post. But slick poster. >>

I'm really sorry you feel that way. However, not everybody is an alcoholic.

Here's a good illustration by Aesop, if you aren't familliar with it already.

A Man and his son were once going with their Donkey to market. As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them and said: "You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?"

So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: "See that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides."

So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself. But they hadn't gone far when they passed two women, one of whom said to the other: "Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little son trudge along."

Well, the Man didn't know what to do, but at last he took his Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them. The Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said: "Aren't you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor donkey of yourself and your hulking son?"

The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied the donkey's feet to it, and raised the pole and the donkey to their shoulders. They went along amid the laughter of all who met them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end of the pole. In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.
"That will teach you," said an old man who had followed them:

"Please all, and you will please none."

GoldenEyeNumismatics · August 5, 2006 3:52AM

It would make sense to discuss a coin deal at a bar

shylock · August 5, 2006 1:29PM

I'm really sorry you feel that way. However, not everybody is an alcoholic.

Here's a good illustration by Aesop, if you aren't familliar with it already.

A Man and his son were once going with their Donkey to market. As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them and said: "You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?"

So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: "See that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides."

So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself. But they hadn't gone far when they passed two women, one of whom said to the other: "Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little son trudge along."

Well, the Man didn't know what to do, but at last he took his Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them. The Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said: "Aren't you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor donkey of yourself and your hulking son?"

The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied the donkey's feet to it, and raised the pole and the donkey to their shoulders. They went along amid the laughter of all who met them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end of the pole. In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.
"That will teach you," said an old man who had followed them:

"Please all, and you will please none."

Really lame response, but I can understand you sucking up to your employer.

You lost me when the Man and Boy tied the donkey's feet to a pole...

majorbigtime · August 5, 2006 1:58PM

No, but I spilled a full beer on Julian's cases at a Long Beach show about 20 years ago!

He was a good sport about it, as he wiped the cases dry with a towel.

I felt so bad, I actually bought something (a Randall Hoard large cent) from him..

majorbigtime · August 5, 2006 2:17PM

Maybe Snakes should flip the title and ask if you ever overpaid for a coin 'cause you hit the sauce?

Waaaay back when, the coin auctioneers in Southern California had open bars in the auction room. I believe the intention was to "stimulate sales"!

poorguy · August 7, 2006 12:06PM

<< I'm really sorry you feel that way. However, not everybody is an alcoholic.

Here's a good illustration by Aesop, if you aren't familliar with it already.

A Man and his son were once going with their Donkey to market. As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them and said: "You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?"

So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: "See that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides."

So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself. But they hadn't gone far when they passed two women, one of whom said to the other: "Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little son trudge along."

Well, the Man didn't know what to do, but at last he took his Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them. The Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said: "Aren't you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor donkey of yourself and your hulking son?"

The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied the donkey's feet to it, and raised the pole and the donkey to their shoulders. They went along amid the laughter of all who met them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end of the pole. In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.
"That will teach you," said an old man who had followed them:

"Please all, and you will please none."

Really lame response, but I can understand you sucking up to your employer.

You lost me when the Man and Boy tied the donkey's feet to a pole... >>

If you know me, you know that I'm better at telling it like it is than sucking up to someone. I speak what's on my mind, whether or not those around me like what I have to say.

Like I said before, not everybody has a problem with alcohol. Do not get me wrong, I have compassion for you regarding your struggles. However, I do not feel that the problems of few should dictate the lives of many. A person's problems are just that, their problems.

If I'm trying to quit smoking, should I restrict anyone who comes around me from smoking as well? After all, the smell of cigarette smoke can trigger a need for a cigarette in those who are addicted. What if the smell of cantaloupe made me want to light up a cigarette? Should our local supermarket be forced to not carry them anymore? Stress at work may make people want to drink as well which could end the sobriety of someone who has gone 3 months without a drink. Does your boss have an obligation to lighten your workload? No.

Do you get upset that casino's give away free drinks to patrons? Do you get annoyed during happy hour at a local restaurant? Both of these marketing techniques use alcohol to get people to visit more and spend more. Are they wrong for doing this? No.

seateddime · August 7, 2006 12:51PM

will you be drinking at ANA?

Coxe · August 7, 2006 1:00PM

Not knowingly. However, I have bought many expensive coins while I was under the influence. Too many auctions end too soon after dinner and a couple glasses of dinner wine.

oldcameoproofsguy · August 7, 2006 1:05PM

I bought a bunch of junk silver from a drunk lady for about 2X face.
She said I looked like Pierce Brosnan.
I said she smelled like a burning gas station.
She left happy and so did I.

BlindedByEgo · August 8, 2006 5:16AM

<< I bought a bunch of junk silver from a drunk lady for about 2X face.
She said I looked like Pierce Brosnan.
I said she smelled like a burning gas station.
She left happy and so did I. >>

shylock · August 8, 2006 7:15AM

Ever bought a cheap coin from someone while they were under the influence?

Like I said before, not everybody has a problem with alcohol. Do not get me wrong, I have compassion for you regarding your struggles. However, I do not feel that the problems of few should dictate the lives of many. A person's problems are just that, their problems.

I have to agree with Anaconda and poorguy here. Reap the benifits of those under the influence. It's all fair play.

JJM · August 8, 2006 7:18AM

not really , but ive went to shows after lunch and a few !!!!!

I do enjoy on pulling out the coins after a few

's now and again......

USCGCraig · August 9, 2006 12:41AM

If someone was higher then a kite on coke, meth (other illegal drug etc), I personally wouldn't feel bad one bit buying a coin cheap from them. However, I would be concerned that the coin was "hot". I may buy something from someone using illegal drugs but am not interested in buying potentially stolen property.

Ever bought a cheap coin from someone while they were under the influence?

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