If Russ puts some Coin Care or Blue Ribbon on that 1930 Lincoln and re-images it and posts the image you'll see that all the "blue" will "disappear" - The Coin Care or Blue Ribbon will come right off with acetone and will again look just like the 2nd "Blue" coin.
Just a FYI as to why removing the gunk with acetone will sometimes result in a "blue toned" IHC or Lincoln. With regard to Coinguy1's thread that has Laura so upset, I think the coins that were bought from Stacks had CCC or Blue Ribbon on them (which was very common in old time collections - it protects the coins from getting spots, but hides the toning) and when soaked in acetone, the coating comes off and you see the original toning. The only way to know this is to have collected copper coins beofre slabbing and have seen coins that were "protected" with Coin Care or Blue Ribbon so they wouldn't spot. If you've only collected slabbed coins, you would have no way of knowing this.
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I had a nice 48P Lincoln doubled eye that had some bad carbon spots a couple of years ago. I put it in acetone then got to doing something with the kids and forgot all about it, must have been 10 hours in acetone. When I went to get it out it had turned a lousy rusty reddish color that looked so bad. I tossed the coin in a change bin. Maybe timing is key with acetone baths... I don't have the desire to experiment, but I wonder if the acetone itself causes some change on the metal surface???
I don't have Photoshop. It's too expensive. Russ, NCNE >>
Yep, I'd say those colors are consistent with whatever they call the free photoediting program that comes with a Dell...well done. I'd say the second photo is fairly close to accurate--just hopped up a little.--Jerry
<< <i>Great job Russ, now all the newbies think that acetone causes toning. >>
It doesn't?
So far acetone has been good for taking tape residue off of coins, but that's about it that I've found. After the 1st few posts in this thread, I be Wal-Mart had acetone flying off the shelf
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Whatja do? Bake it off?
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As long as his customers just buy photos, this could be big!!
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Is that what they call a doctored coin?
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Just a FYI as to why removing the gunk with acetone will sometimes result in a "blue toned" IHC or Lincoln. With regard to Coinguy1's thread that has Laura so upset, I think the coins that were bought from Stacks had CCC or Blue Ribbon on them (which was very common in old time collections - it protects the coins from getting spots, but hides the toning) and when soaked in acetone, the coating comes off and you see the original toning. The only way to know this is to have collected copper coins beofre slabbing and have seen coins that were "protected" with Coin Care or Blue Ribbon so they wouldn't spot. If you've only collected slabbed coins, you would have no way of knowing this.
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<< <i>If you've only collected slabbed coins, you would have no way of knowing this. >>
I'd hazzard a guess that Mark has seen more than a few raw coins in his time.
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Maybe timing is key with acetone baths...
I don't have the desire to experiment, but I wonder if the acetone itself causes some change on the metal surface???
It is the same coin.
<< <i>It's Ace-Toned >>
True.
Either that or you took great pains to get the coin positioned in the exact same locations, next to the dust particles on the background.
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<< <i>No buy futures in photoshop. >>
I don't have Photoshop. It's too expensive. Russ, NCNE >>
Yep, I'd say those colors are consistent with whatever they call the free photoediting program that comes with a Dell...well done. I'd say the second photo is fairly close to accurate--just hopped up a little.--Jerry
<< <i>I'd say those colors are consistent with whatever they call the free photoediting program that comes with a Dell... >>
Dell?
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<< <i>I'd say those colors are consistent with whatever they call the free photoediting program that comes with a Dell... >>
Dell? Russ, NCNE >>
What, you're typing on an old PDP 11 you bought off ebay?
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<< <i>Russ's images are always dead-on. >>
The second image is. The first is edited.
BTW, I used a shareware program called Thumbs Plus that I bought back in 1999.
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<< <i>The second image is. The first is edited. >>
Fooled me...
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<< <i>Russ's images are always dead-on. >>
The second image is. The first is edited. BTW, I used a shareware program called Thumbs Plus that I bought back in 1999. Russ, NCNE >>
I knew it looked familiar. I have Thumbsplus that I bought about the same time for posting images on the intranet at work. --Jerry
<< <i>BTW, I used a shareware program called Thumbs Plus that I bought back in 1999. >>
Did you pay the registration fee or are you still evaluating it as freeware?
Edited to add: Never mind. I reread where you bought it.
<< <i>Great...!!!!!!!!........Now Russ is a coin doctor........!!!!!!! >>
Are you saying that the removal of lacquer which causes the "enhancement" of the color of a coin is "doctoring"?
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<< <i>Great...!!!!!!!!........Now Russ is a coin doctor........!!!!!!! >>
Are you saying that the removal of lacquer which causes the "enhancement" of the color of a coin is "doctoring"? >>
The pun was intended towards Russ...and the application of acetone is not doctoring........
So you thumbed the coin, huh?
<< <i>I wouldn't get caught dead owning a POS Dell.
Russ, NCNE >>
If your not feeling very well...stay out of the computer isle at best buy's...thats all they sell.
it'll look like you were caught dead looking for a new dell.
<< <i>Great job Russ, now all the newbies think that acetone causes toning. >>
It doesn't?
So far acetone has been good for taking tape residue off of coins, but that's about it that I've found. After the 1st few posts in this thread, I be Wal-Mart had acetone flying off the shelf
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