Morgan VAM's stolen on saturday in Arizona june 21st.

hiyosilver · June 26, 2006 7:20AM

Edit: I've just been notified that the coins will be returned within the next 24 hours!! Wish me luck!!

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I got cleaned out.......

These coins are all raw.

1. 1878-P 7 t/f rev. '78 VAM 84A

2.1883-O VAM 36A ( EDS ) revision coin

3.1883-O VAM 21A

4. 1883-O VAM 1D die gouge wing ( proof like )

5. 1884-O VAM 14 ( doubled t/f's )

6. 1885-P VAM 4A changed to VAM 8 ( revision coin and toned obv.)

7. 1887-P VAM 12 Alligator eye

8. 1887-P VAM 13

9. 1887-P VAM 14A

10. 1898-P VAM 4A retained cud ( EDS , no die chip )

11. 1921-S VAM 1Y ( lines above STATES ) Discovery coin

12 & 13 (2) 1921-P's VAM 3D ( over-polished wing ) 1. EDS & 1. MDS

Any help finding the rat bastiges and the coins would be much appreciated.

A police report has been filed and the shops in the area have been notified........

Thanks!

BlindedByEgo · June 26, 2006 7:57AM

I'm really sorry to hear this... Fill us in when you get a chance.

JRocco · June 26, 2006 8:11AM

That rots...give us more info---where were they taken from (geographically) ?

DUIGUY · June 26, 2006 8:25AM

Hope they are recovered !!

hiyosilver · June 26, 2006 8:27AM

The theft was in Surprise, Az. , it was on saturday night.

Sorry for the hit and run.....gotta take care of some biz.

Thanks guys!!

Manuel

Louis · June 26, 2006 8:30AM

Surprise, Az.

nesvt · June 26, 2006 8:35AM

That sucks. From your home? Car?
Didn't someone have access to some dealer network alert system? VAMber Alert? Seriously... there was a theft reported a while back and someone put the info out to all dealers in the area via the web. I don't remember the exact details.

MAD4MORGANS · June 26, 2006 8:55AM

That absolutely SUCKS!!

Sorry to hear that Manuel.

Coxe · June 26, 2006 8:57AM

<< 11. 1921-S VAM 1Y ( lines above STATES ) Discovery coin >>

Post Leroys pic(s) of that one. Any mark specific to that coin in the photographed region should positively identify the piece.

Are any slabbed? If so, do you have the tag numbers? Either slabbed or not, if any were bought from the web where images were available, they might stiull be accessible for people to use to ID them.

BlindedByEgo · June 26, 2006 9:11AM

Once again... The best Surprise is no Surprise™

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy · June 26, 2006 9:15AM

Manuel, Sorry to hear about your theft. Odds of them showing up in MD are pretty low. Chances are the theif will not know anything about their special VAM status either.

This sucks.

Rob

lkenefic · June 26, 2006 9:43AM

I'm up in Flagstaff... I'll alert my local B&M shop (American Bullion & Coin) that there may be some errant VAMs on the loose. One of the dealers that works there is very much into collecting VAMs so any additional info (location of diagnostic scratches etc...) will greatly help your cause.

Leo

09sVDB · June 26, 2006 9:55AM

Sorry to hear about your loss.

hiyosilver · June 26, 2006 10:18AM

The 21-S discovery coin , the lines above STATES.

The coin has dark toning spots on the obv.

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The 21-P EDS VAM 3D polished wing

The obv. has rim toning.

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The 1883-O VAM 1D die gouge wing

I'll keep posting the pics as I find them. Thanks guys!!

Manuel

Coxe · June 26, 2006 10:25AM

Good thing they weren't ASEs or some modern 69 and 70 grade stuff. There are unique hits all over them. Will watch for them. eBay is a likely place for them to show up, probably even moreso than the local coin shop.

hiyosilver · June 26, 2006 2:19PM

Thanks guys.....I just hope they can be recovered. I know it's unlikely but, one can hope.

dwssws · June 26, 2006 8:15PM

sorry to hear about this Manuel hope they are caught and the coins recovered!

LeeG · June 26, 2006 8:25PM

Sorry to hear about this one Manuel. Wish you luck in their safe return.

ibzman350 · June 26, 2006 9:09PM

Dang Manuel, that bites the big one !!

Sorry to hear about the thievery(sp?), I'll keep my eyes out for sure.

So can you give us any details ??? When, how, etc. etc.

Herb

ABC123 · June 26, 2006 10:46PM

Do you have grading service serial #'s ? If not, very, very difficult to ascertain ownership. Photos ? Insurance ? PS--Keep your eye on eBay !!

Coxe · June 26, 2006 10:59PM

ABC123 -- He has even a better thing going for him. His coins are VAMs and he has pics, including a discovery coin. Today you cannot get more attentive eyes than the legion of harcore seasoned VAMmers. Slabs get cracked, but one cannot remove the nick on the O of OF on a Morgan VAM that is being sought by serious collectors.

hiyosilver · June 27, 2006 1:53AM

I've been checking the bay for listings that popped up since saturday night in Az. , not that many raw Morgans. I can only hope they are stupid enough......

Manuel

nesvt · June 27, 2006 2:02AM

<< I've been checking the bay for listings that popped up since saturday night in Az. , not that many raw Morgans. I can only hope they are stupid enough...... >>

Don't forget Overstock.com....

hiyosilver · June 28, 2006 6:12AM

<<Don't forget Overstock.com....>>

Thanks Norm! Been looking there too.

Manuel

messydesk · June 28, 2006 6:44AM

Belated "that sucks" from me. Fortunately, three of those coins are pretty well documented, so there's hope that someone will spot them before they're too heavily dispersed. If that's all that was taken, it doesn't sound like one of the well organized dealer hits that happen during and after shows. I'll keep an eye out online.

hiyosilver · June 29, 2006 11:16PM

A bump for the VAM hunters.......

pharmer · June 29, 2006 11:58PM

<< I've been checking the bay for listings that popped up since saturday night in Az. , not that many raw Morgans. I can only hope they are stupid enough......

Manuel >>

Interesting. You're checking as if the thief would know vams. So you've got a knowledgable collector who is also a thief. You've never given details of where and under what circumstances this occured. Sounds like you may have an idea who.

slipgate · June 30, 2006 12:03AM

Those coins probably went to a local pawn shop for $1.50/coin. I'd focus there.

hiyosilver · June 30, 2006 12:07AM

<<Interesting. You're checking as if the thief would know vams. So you've got a knowledgable collector who is also a thief. You've never given details of where and under what circumstances this occured. Sounds like you may have an idea who. >>

Not quite, Bill. I'm hoping the coins pop up , and some sharp eyed vammer's spot one of the coins.

If I had an idea or even a hint as to who stole the coins, they would no longer be stolen.

Manuel

13PacesEast · June 30, 2006 12:19AM

that sips thru a straw.

unfortunately, even if some do pop up on flea bay you'll never be able to prove they are yours.

pharmer · June 30, 2006 12:27AM

<< <<Interesting. You're checking as if the thief would know vams. So you've got a knowledgable collector who is also a thief. You've never given details of where and under what circumstances this occured. Sounds like you may have an idea who. >>

Not quite, Bill. I'm hoping the coins pop up , and some sharp eyed vammer's spot one of the coins.

If I had an idea or even a hint as to who stole the coins, they would no longer be stolen.

Manuel >>

Details about it all. It's been a week.

hiyosilver · June 30, 2006 12:01PM

A bump for the 1st. post now edited.

DUIGUY · June 30, 2006 12:04PM

OUTSTANDING news !!

messydesk · June 30, 2006 1:04PM

W00T! Looking forward to the "They're home!" post.

pharmer · June 30, 2006 1:34PM

Consuela again?

dwssws · June 30, 2006 10:48PM

<< Consuela again? >>

glad to hear the good news on their return!

Conder101 · June 30, 2006 11:43PM

He hasn't announced their actual return yet, and it's been 23 1/2 hours since he posted the 24 hr notice.

Opps, my mistake only 12 hours.

construct · June 30, 2006 11:56PM

Well, in twelve hours, it won't be scandalous to start some serious celebratin'!

Congratulations.

hiyosilver · September 11, 2006 9:44AM

These coins have not been recovered.

I had a phone call from a female w/a german accent telling me she had the coins and would meet me in exchange for the reward I posted. She never arrived and the phone number she used could not be traced to an address by the police.

She used the name Connie, if this woman sounds familiar or these coins pop up.....you know who to contact. Thanks!

Manuel

RobJoyce1921dVAMguy · September 11, 2006 9:46AM

Well that sucks. Sorry.

Rob

Coxe · September 11, 2006 9:56AM

Aw man, that really is terrible. Gonna have to keep an eye out for them.

MORGANHUNTER2 · September 11, 2006 11:36AM

I hate thieves- and I'm looking out fer ya buuddy-

I've hit a few of the pawn shops and asked- as well as some of the local coin shops-

might want to take an add out in the paper- say your lookin to collect rare silver dollars that have funny marks all over them..

as dumb as this sounds- you would be 'surprised' what may crawl out from under the rock besides a scorpion.

kwmorgan · September 12, 2006 1:40AM

After hearing this and other theft stories, I now have a special rider on my home insurance just for the coins. Everything is documented as well. I sleep a lot easier now.

Conder101 · September 12, 2006 4:04AM

<< I had a phone call from a female w/a german accent telling me she had the coins and would meet me in exchange for the reward I posted. She never arrived and the phone number she used could not be traced to an address by the police. >>

Becareful of calls like this. In some cases they may be looking to lure you out and rob you of the reward money, other times they may be just trying to get you out of the house so they can hit it again. (Someone tried that on me once. They were very specific about when I was to be some place. When he wasn't there at that time I got suspicious and called my next door neighbor and asked him to take alook around our house. Sure enough the neighbor caught him in the process of trying to break in through a basement window.)

lkenefic · September 12, 2006 4:09AM

Awesome news that you may be getting them back!!! Let us know how it turns out!!!

Leo

Morgan VAM's stolen on saturday in Arizona june 21st.

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