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Tom Noe getting company from Marty Haber

roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 16, 2017 8:20AM in U.S. Coin Forum
Seems like it is the season for taking down long time dealers. Now former NERCG, and NIOF (numismatic investments of Florida) owner Martin Haber has pleaded guilty to defrauding ebay customers to the tune of $400,000. Marty was operating South Dixie Rare Coins in Miami when this went down. He was a former attorney as well.
Page 68 in Coin World has the full story.

Marty was a major and formidable player in gem type coins in the 1982-1990 era. A lot of the best and rarest seated, bust, barber coinage seemed to gravitate to him. Haven't heard anything about him since 1990 until today. He did have a good eye and a taste for the best. Sort of disappointing to see another guy with his hand in other's pockets.

My best (and most unfortunate story) with a NIOF auction (circa 1985) was when I won a "gem 65" 1831 bust quarter in spirited floor bidding for around $8500. This was a beautiful gem coin with no problems that I had spent about 10 minutes pouring over on 2 different viewings. Imagine my surprise when the coin arrived
in the mail and had a deep old thick scratch bisecting the entire obverse. Clearly this couldn't have been the same coin?? In any case I ended up eating the piece and took a $2000 hit in reselling it. It was a lesson learned...but I'm not sure what lesson? But in light of the above allegations there may have been more to this.

roadrunner

http://www.coinweek.com/education/numismatic-history/goes-aroundthe-1986-florida-united-numismatists-convention-sale/

That article suggests Haber did once worked for NERCG. I have most of their old catalogs and could probably dig it out.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now former NERCG, and NIOF (numismatic investments of Florida) owner Martin Haber ...

    Brian - I'm sure you didn't mean it, but you made it sounds like like Marty owned NERCG. He didn't.

    BTW, I still miss the unbelievable MS 68 1838 Seated Quarter Marty sold me in 1989.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, he was one of Jim Haplerin's underlings (as was Noe) during the NERCG hey days. So many major dealers, who are still around got their start there.

    I loved that 1838 25c as well. It has shown up at auction from time to time and is a moose. One of the few "white" early type coins that is amazing. The definitive no drapery quarter...and probably the finest pre-1852 seated quarter of any date I have ever seen. Possibly the finest condition pre-1866 mint state piece as well.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536


    << <i>So many major dealers, who are still around got their start there. >>


    But would they put it on their resume? image
  • cupronikcupronik Posts: 773 ✭✭✭
    I had read of Marty Haber in a 1988 CDN Monthly Summary on Gem BU Seated Liberty Dollars.
    The atricle's author was noneother than Bruce Amspacher. According to Bruce, Marty has handled
    several beautiful Gem examples of 1854 SL $1's.

    Although I've never met the well-known dealers mentioned in Amspacher's various Monthly Summary
    articles (i.e. Morgan Dollars I, II, & III; Peace Dollars; and the two SL Dollars: 1982 & 1988), I have won-
    dered where these dealers are today (Haber, Greg Holloway, Gene Edwards, etc.)
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I had read of Marty Haber in a 1988 CDN Monthly Summary on Gem BU Seated Liberty Dollars.
    The atricle's author was noneother than Bruce Amspacher. According to Bruce, Marty has handled
    several beautiful Gem examples of 1854 SL $1's.

    Although I've never met the well-known dealers mentioned in Amspacher's various Monthly Summary
    articles (i.e. Morgan Dollars I, II, & III; Peace Dollars; and the two SL Dollars: 1982 & 1988), I have won-
    dered where these dealers are today (Haber, Greg Holloway, Gene Edwards, etc.) >>

    Sadly, Gene Edwards passed away many years ago. He was quite a character (in a good way) and handled great coins. Greg Holloway was the promoter of the semi-annual Pam Beach coin show, which he initiated a couple of years ago. I don't know if he still dabbles in coins or not - he did, at least on a limited basis, a few years ago.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This was a beautiful gem coin with no problems that I had spent about 10 minutes pouring over on 2 different viewings. Imagine my surprise when the coin arrived in the mail and had a deep old thick scratch bisecting the entire obverse. Clearly this couldn't have been the same coin?? >>

    Sounds like the old coin switcharoo trick.imageimage
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My best (and most unfortunate story) with a NIOF auction (circa 1985) was when I won a "gem 65" 1831 bust quarter in spirited floor bidding for around $8500. This was a beautiful gem coin with no problems that I had spent about 10 minutes pouring over on 2 different viewings. Imagine my surprise when the coin arrived
    in the mail and had a deep old thick scratch bisecting the entire obverse. Clearly this couldn't have been the same coin?? In any case I ended up eating the piece and took a $2000 hit in reselling it. It was a lesson learned...but I'm not sure what lesson? But in light of the above allegations there may have been more to this.

    roadrunner >>



    I guess the lesson would have been to pick up the coin off the floor. Of course, this has less chance of happening now with slabs.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Yes, he was one of Jim Haplerin's underlings (as was Noe) during the NERCG hey days. So many major dealers, who are still around got their start there.

    If I recall correctly, Halperin, while at NERCG, had his own run-in with the gov't (FTC?) and made some multi-hundred thousand dollar settlement with them to avoid prosecution.
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I do not believe that Haber ever worked for NERCG. Halperin's problem with the FTC happened after he sold the company and was a function of him supplying inventory to the new owners, I believe.
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    Here's the Heritage bit about Halperin.

    Greg Holloway? Wow!! I often wondered what happened to the guy who nearly cleaned out my meager case at the TNA in 1983. I barely had set things up when Greg's wife popped by and wanted to see 90% of what I had. She took 'em all and Greg popped over 5 minutes later with a big, fat check....image ...and again, more buying and selling for several days.image

    .....and then, there were those hot poker hands in the hotel that night.....quite a profitable trip.image

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