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112 Year Old Aluminum
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I didn't know it could look so nice
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- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
promptly put it away. strange that.
or did it come with a hole?
That coin has some AMAZING detail-for its age!!
And a very attractive design. No room for spaghetti hair on that baby!
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>it looks like someone put a hole in that coin, and then
promptly put it away. strange that.
or did it come with a hole?
>>
My understanding is that they were produced with the hole. Perhaps a medal expert can confirm this. This particular medal is HK-249.
Looks like post-mint holeage...
are holed by drilling or punching by the manufacturer. This does not necessarily affect the
value or desirability of a piece.
Beginning in 1854, aluminum was more valuable than gold because the Deville method could only produce small lumps at high cost. By 1866 Hall and Heroult had figured out how to use electric current to separate alumina, driving the cost down to around that of silver. By 1888 they were producing ingots using hydroelectricity from Niagra Falls.
By 1893 the price of aluminum was down to about 65 cents per pound, yet artisans might not yet have been familiar with its properties, and were not used to thinking of it as cheap, so they would still work it with the respect and skill reserved for other precious metals. This is evident in the fine design on this piece.
Or maybe our modern coin designs have just gotten so horrible that anything from back then looks good!
<< <i>Any idea what was the original issue price or value? >>
No I don't, but would be interested in finding out.
Cladking, do you have a copy of the HK book? Supposedly, they have detailed information on the medals cataloged up through 1960. I think I read here some time ago that someone was doing an update. Anyone have any information on the progress?
These types of medals are still affordable and seem like an interesting collecting area, especially when you start researching the events where they were sold.
are similar ones with "EUREKA" at top of obverse which is the state seal. It's listed at
$35 which is very high priced by their figuring but all prices should be taken with a grain
of salt.
They call it the Electric Tower-State seal dollar.
It's not seen often (at least in the midwest) and I've never seen it cheap.
and low denomination coins that see very limited circulation. It's only real drawback
is that it wears poorly since the light weight can be more an asset than a liability.
<< <i>It's not seen often (at least in the midwest) and I've never seen it cheap. >>
This was an impulse buy for me. I probably paid too much, but I thought it was cool. It's in an NGC slab. Anyone care to guess the grade?
132 year old $5 Liberty pattern made from aluminum. Judd 1372. Awesome.
<< <i>134 year old $20 Liberty pattern made from aluminum. Looks exactly like the day it was minted in 1872. Sorry for the poor picture. Judd-1254. >>
Great looking aluminum pattern 5$ piece... WOW!
The hole in the HK-249 is normal, and was done after striking. This was done with many of these medals, so that they could be worn on a ribbon or badge for attendance to the various associated events and celebrations. Putting a hole in them is very common. This particular piece without a hole is extremely rare, because they were almost all hole at the event.
As far as grade goes...it looks to be in excellent condition. Showing proof-like fields are tough with a scanner or a camera, without some real fancy setup. I would guess this is an MS65 DPL piece....... Just a wild guess of course. At any rate, it is a very nice item, and a good start to s so-called dollar collection.
It is my understanding there are a couple of books in the works. So-called dollars are both mint and non-mint produced. From a good source, there is a book that is to be released by the end of the year that covers So-Called Dollars of the United States Mint. I don't have any more details on it yet, but keep your eyes on the numismatic publications for more information. I'd like to see a release by the ANA in August, but don't think it will happen... I think there is another book, still in the works, and down the road further covering so-calleds of the same era as the original HK book, but expanding on many of the un-listed varieties and off-metals. Just some more vague information at this point, but this has been in the works for quite a while now....
John
Evergreen, Colorado
cadmanco
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<< <i>134 year old $20 Liberty pattern made from aluminum. Looks exactly like the day it was minted in 1872. Sorry for the poor picture. Judd-1254. >>
Great looking aluminum pattern 5$ piece... WOW!
The hole in the HK-249 is normal, and was done after striking. This was done with many of these medals, so that they could be worn on a ribbon or badge for attendance to the various associated events and celebrations. Putting a hole in them is very common. This particular piece without a hole is extremely rare, because they were almost all hole at the event.
As far as grade goes...it looks to be in excellent condition. Showing proof-like fields are tough with a scanner or a camera, without some real fancy setup. I would guess this is an MS65 DPL piece....... Just a wild guess of course. At any rate, it is a very nice item, and a good start to s so-called dollar collection.
It is my understanding there are a couple of books in the works. So-called dollars are both mint and non-mint produced. From a good source, there is a book that is to be released by the end of the year that covers So-Called Dollars of the United States Mint. I don't have any more details on it yet, but keep your eyes on the numismatic publications for more information. I'd like to see a release by the ANA in August, but don't think it will happen... I think there is another book, still in the works, and down the road further covering so-calleds of the same era as the original HK book, but expanding on many of the un-listed varieties and off-metals. Just some more vague information at this point, but this has been in the works for quite a while now.... >>
Its graded MS-64 by NGC. I saw the coin and bought on impulse.
I will be on the lookout for the new book. My copy of HK is on order.
I owned the 16 piece 1868 set. Paid a lot for it too. 75K.
Wonder what it's worth now........
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
John
Evergreen, Colorado
cadmanco
<< <i>I will be on the lookout for the new book. My copy of HK is on order.
Can I inquire as to where you ordered your book and for how much?
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<< <i>I will be on the lookout for the new book. My copy of HK is on order.
Can I inquire as to where you ordered your book and for how much? >>
I bought it online for about $90.00. There is currently one up on eBay, but I couldn't wait.
Aluminum does strike up nicely but fades fast once the coin is in circulation....a lot of darkside aluminum out there and after a while it looks really bad!
K
Amazing!
And Aluminium!
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(Oreville's coin came to mind when I saw it, too.)