is this how a Upper Deck label should look?

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MoneyLA
MoneyLA Posts: 1,825 ✭
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Im new at this, but I have to question how the label looks on the ebay auction item. Please advise. Also, I tried calling UpperDeck to get confirmation, and could not get through. the phone number in the Upper Deck information on this auction is NOT correct. Help, please.

thanks


ebay auction link
Cheers, Alan Mendelson
www.AlanBestBuys.com
www.VegasBestBuys.com

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  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    the seller passes the "smell test" IMO and there are some savvy bidders in contention, so my gut instinct is you're safe.... that said, i'm anything but an expert on mantle autos.. doesn't ebay have a service where for a small fee you can get an opinion on whether an auto is legit? if i'm not mistaken, it's handled by psa...
  • rose14com
    rose14com Posts: 225 ✭
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    You can check out the upper deck site, but this cert number isn't in the online db, but there is a message saying you can call to try and verify it.
    upper deck authenticated check
    kev

    keeping my ears open for oddball cards of Rose from the 60's and 70's.
  • MoneyLA
    MoneyLA Posts: 1,825 ✭
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    thank you. I emailed upper deck.
    Cheers, Alan Mendelson
    www.AlanBestBuys.com
    www.VegasBestBuys.com
  • MoneyLA
    MoneyLA Posts: 1,825 ✭
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    I got a response from Upper Deck:

    "In regards to your question, I’m showing a different item registered under that hologram number. Please feel free to email with any other questions.

    Thanks,

    The Upper Deck Company"



    Cheers, Alan Mendelson
    www.AlanBestBuys.com
    www.VegasBestBuys.com
  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    wow.. that's not good.. that info combined with the appearance that the sticker isn't quite right, pretty much spells it out then... maybe the seller should be made aware of the situation? He could also be an innocent victim in this, depending on how he got that ball...



  • MarkJ
    MarkJ Posts: 160
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    I wouldn't buy after reading this...
  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    yuck.. neither would i!
  • MarkJ
    MarkJ Posts: 160
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    I just emailed the seller. I'll let you know when he gets back with me.

    I emailed him this statement from UD:

    I got a response from Upper Deck:

    "In regards to your question, I’m showing a different item registered under that hologram number. Please feel free to email with any other questions.

    Thanks,

    The Upper Deck Company"
  • MarkJ
    MarkJ Posts: 160
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    This was his reply back to me.

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    The proprietary hologram on ball matches the hologram on the COA. The holograms are tamper proof so you tell me what is going on?

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  • LuvMyCoins
    LuvMyCoins Posts: 47
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    The proprietary hologram on ball matches the hologram on the COA. The holograms are tamper proof so you tell me what is going on?


    Yes, but that COA looks counterfeit? image
  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    that COA and sticker could belong to any cheap UDA item, where the sticker was probably taken from and stuck on that ball.. the upper deck representative also confirmed it's from another item.. so he takes a $50 legitimate UDA item, peels the sticker off and sticks it on a fake auto ball and sells it for big $$$ and the numbers do in fact match? it stinks to high heaven at the very least and is more than likely outright criminal fraud IMO.. something definitely rotten on this one.. looks like it might have been going on a while also
  • RangerRob
    RangerRob Posts: 57
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    You can tell that sticker has been messed with.
  • RangerRob
    RangerRob Posts: 57
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    Please tell me that these people are not this stupid. How easy was it to check with UD? What about his other items JSA?
  • MoneyLA
    MoneyLA Posts: 1,825 ✭
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    well, the good news is Im going to get a TV piece out of this... I video taped the ebay site and will use it on TV. For those of you not in Los Angeles, I will post the link to the station's website after the report airs so you can see it.

    I also sent the seller an email, but he did not respond.

    UD told me they referred this to their "fraud dept." after I called them about it.

    Alan Mendelson
    Cheers, Alan Mendelson
    www.AlanBestBuys.com
    www.VegasBestBuys.com
  • MarkJ
    MarkJ Posts: 160
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    Alan,

    imageimage
  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    woohoo guys.. we're gonna be FAMOUS!!!
  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    mr. mendelson.. i've heard the name.. can't place it.. you do a consumer protection bit on channel 9 in LA? or is it channel 2? definitely please remember to paste us with the link, i'd love to check it out! nice work! turds like that guy selling that fake mantle ball deserve whatever happens to them.
  • RichG
    RichG Posts: 483
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    The link to the auction in question didn't work for me. I wanted to see how obvious the tampering looked. I have a UDA Mantle and Ted Williams baseball. I bought these so long ago that I can't remember talking to a UDA rep regarding their authenticity. I kind of freaked out when I attempted (a few minutes ago) to type the hologram number into the UDA website listed in this thread and I was told that "my hologram numbers were not in the database". I called UDA and they informed me that since my items are old, they are not in the online website but rather in a book that they need to look up manually.
    Rich
  • MoneyLA
    MoneyLA Posts: 1,825 ✭
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    Yes, on KCAL-9 and CBS-2.

    But here's an update: UD now says they are still investigating the ball and the authentication-- no final decision from them yet.

    Will keep you posted.

    thanks.
    Cheers, Alan Mendelson
    www.AlanBestBuys.com
    www.VegasBestBuys.com
  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    now i remember! ends every bit with "i'm alan mendelson, and i'll fiiiiight for you!" this is great.. nice to meet you!
  • MoneyLA
    MoneyLA Posts: 1,825 ✭
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    Hi, Ive been on the coin side for years and years... put together a couple of "all time finest registry sets," and just started with sports memorabilia.

    cheers. Alan
    Cheers, Alan Mendelson
    www.AlanBestBuys.com
    www.VegasBestBuys.com
  • etown99girl
    etown99girl Posts: 259 ✭
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    The link to the auction in question didn't work for me. I wanted to see how obvious the tampering looked. I have a UDA Mantle and Ted Williams baseball. I bought these so long ago that I can't remember talking to a UDA rep regarding their authenticity. I kind of freaked out when I attempted (a few minutes ago) to type the hologram number into the UDA website listed in this thread and I was told that "my hologram numbers were not in the database". I called UDA and they informed me that since my items are old, they are not in the online website but rather in a book that they need to look up manually.
    Rich




    Sounds like this might be the same problem here. I hate seeing buyers get screwed.

    Please keep us updated.
  • etown99girl
    etown99girl Posts: 259 ✭
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    LOL...

    The listing has been pulled......

    This listing (#8821866307) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number.

    If the listing was removed by eBay, consider it canceled. Note: Listings that have ended more than 90 days ago will no longer appear on eBay.

    Try searching for another item now.
  • etown99girl
    etown99girl Posts: 259 ✭
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    Did anyone get that seller's name?
  • LuvMyCoins
    LuvMyCoins Posts: 47
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    The seller was cyberlegends( 768)
  • MarkJ
    MarkJ Posts: 160
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    Looks like ebay did pull it.


    I emailed him back and asked him why he pulled it or if ebay pulled it. If the seller would had ended it, we should still be able to see the listing, but since we can't ebay must had pulled it.

  • montanafan
    montanafan Posts: 632
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    doesn't look like anyone will be getting ripped off on that ball after all..

    oh by the way, the $20,000 "Mickey Mantle PSA Lot Authentic T206 & 1933 Goudey!!!!" auction that was the subject of debate on here the other day.. i emailed the seller and asked him if he would use escrow and sure enough, he wrote back and said "not at this time.. thanks." flags don't get much redder than that....

    that auction was ebay 8818010402..
  • MoneyLA
    MoneyLA Posts: 1,825 ✭
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    the report was on the noon news today, friday, 6/9.

    here is the link to the website: http://cbs2.com/video?cid=95

    the TV report will be on the web this afternoon.

    there is no additional word from Upper Deck, and the ebay seller still has not responded.
    Cheers, Alan Mendelson
    www.AlanBestBuys.com
    www.VegasBestBuys.com
  • etown99girl
    etown99girl Posts: 259 ✭
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    I just emailed your link to the seller and asked him for his side.

    I doubt that I will get a reply back.

    Thanks for posting.
  • etown99girl
    etown99girl Posts: 259 ✭
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    His reply back to me:

    Guess what...joke is on them. UDA admitted yesterday (after finally doing their homework) that this ball is authentic. I can forward the confirmation email from UDA to anyone who wants to see it.

  • Bosox1976
    Bosox1976 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bought an autographed Corey Dillon jersey pretty cheap once. UDA COA was a fake - hologram and COA matched - but not to the UDA database. It is a fake.
    Mike
    Bosox1976

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